# Comments on ATMB remarks from Tuba **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2005, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863 "2005-09-22T11:19:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/41 "2005-09-22T15:58:28Z")
I would suggest that the “no bashing someone who’s been suspended/banned” policy should become a rule, at least in ATMB. If you just have to say something about them, take it to the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/42 "2005-09-22T16:03:58Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I would suggest that the “no bashing someone who’s been suspended/banned” policy should become a rule, at least in ATMB. If you just have to say something about them, take it to the Pit. Pfft, I didn’t come back crying after my month suspension mad at people for implying I was a petty loser. The comments in ATMB are already required to be mild, so I really don’t see the point of your suggestion other than to coddle **Liberal** ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/43 "2005-09-22T16:08:57Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > We can show that it is so using logic. > > [ol] > [li]If it was intended as a false quote, then it was necessary for it to be intended as a false quote. [/li][li]Either it is necessary for it to be intended as a false quote, or it isn’t. [/li][li]If it isn’t necessary for it to be intended as a false quote, then it is necessary that it isn’t necessary for it to be intended as a false quote. [/li][/ol] > > [snip] Someone let **Metacom** know that **Lib** is posting under his login. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/44 "2005-09-22T16:19:28Z")
Well, hell. I missed the post about **Lib** ’s suspension, so i didn’t even realize his absence was enforced. I assumed that he had just decided to take a bit of a break from posting, as he occasionally does. Not sure that this was the most productive way to return, but i’m glad he’s back. Things are always more interesting around here when he’s posting. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/45 "2005-09-22T16:29:19Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > Well, it’s a policy at least, which some mod invokes in many banning threads. Well, my guideline would be that it’s useless and undesirable to start a Pit thread about a poster after the poster’s banning. In particular, if a poster says something in Thread X that causes him or her to be banned, I would tell the people in Thread X “you can stop beating up on that poster since he’s been banned and can’t respond.” Especially for the “troll” type who would glory in the trouble caused in the thread. That doesn’t mean that you can never mention the poster again in any shape, way, or form at the SDMB, or refer, in one of your posts, to some of the banned poster’s qualities or defects of characters. The situation of suspended posters is somewhat different. Technically they are still board members. I would discourage someone starting a thread to flame a suspended poster during the suspension, or for someone to start a thread in MPSIMS asking “Hey, [suspended poster], can you come give me your opinion on this?” but not everyone will be aware of the poster’s status. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/46 "2005-09-22T16:34:26Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Pfft, I didn’t come back crying after my month suspension mad at people for implying I was a petty loser. The comments in ATMB are already required to be mild, so I really don’t see the point of your suggestion other than to coddle **Liberal** It’s got nothing to do with **Liberal**. The threads in ATMB are supposed to be just announcements to avoid rampant speculation. In fact, I would support each of those threads being locked as soon as they are posted. They require no comment from anyone other than the moderators and admins. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/47 "2005-09-22T16:37:54Z")
What an Aldebaranesque OP. The only thing missing is a final line saying “Fuck you all, I’m going to clown college!” ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/48 "2005-09-22T16:43:31Z")
> [@vibrotronica](#): > > This is **Libertarian** ’s favorite kind of thread: Ones about him! The poster’s username is **Liberal**. We do have a practice of not permitting people to modify others’ usernames for fun and insult. **Liberal** has explicitly asked that he be addressed and referred to as **Liberal** in several earlier threads and at least one poster has already been warned on the basis that they refused to abide by that. We will see no more references to **Liberal** as **Libertarian**. Understood? Everyone? [/Moderator Mode] ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/49 "2005-09-22T16:43:34Z")
OK, everybody, **Lib** ’s back. I’m afraid you’re all just gonna have to stop being unseemly now. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/50 "2005-09-22T16:49:27Z")
Geez, I’m sorry **Lib**. I never meant to cause you such pain. Next time me and the crew get together to set board policy, I’ll make sure to leave you out of it. Right now me and RedFury and the rest of the anonymous crowd are working on fucking the shit up out of the south. Next it’ll be screwing up the state of pop music even more. So you’re not an the agenda. Nice to see you back again in all your glory! ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/51 "2005-09-22T16:49:56Z")
Great. Thanks a lot, Arnold. Way to destroy my prediction by adding some useful information to this thing. I get you yet, SwissMiss. ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/52 "2005-09-22T16:52:42Z")
Jesus, **Una** , some of us are trying to keep our composure over here. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/53 "2005-09-22T16:53:54Z")
There shall be no more references to me as **Hector**. Clearly people doing so are suggesting that I am some sort of blustering bully who only hectors people. I am **Hentor**! Hopefully I will get a moderator’s certification to reference as necessary. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/54 "2005-09-22T17:00:23Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > I am **Hentor**! > > Hopefully I will get a moderator’s certification to reference as necessary. If you’ve got a link to someone hectoring you over your name, I’ll go give them a stern looking at. The point is that it is our practice to leave usernames alone; we have issued Warnings (which you will note, I did not) to people who have violated that taboo; this particular namechange has already been addressed in previous threads. No one here is in trouble or has been Warned. I just wanted everyone to remember the rules before things got out of hand. People find lots of ways to mock **Liberal** without resorting to shunned practices. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/55 "2005-09-22T17:06:43Z")
I think you have just been whooshed. I believe Hentor’s point is that sometimes people misspell his name. He doesn’t think it is any big deal, if I understand it correctly. Also, if I remember correctly, no one is “mangling” Liberal’s name, but instead referring to him by what he called himself when he first got here. Hardly offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/56 "2005-09-22T17:10:14Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > The poster’s username is **Liberal**. > We do have a practice of not permitting people to modify others’ usernames for fun and insult. > **Liberal** has explicitly asked that he be addressed and referred to as **Liberal** in several earlier threads and at least one poster has already been warned on the basis that they refused to abide by that. > > We will see no more references to **Liberal** as **Libertarian**. > > Understood? > > Everyone? > > [/Moderator Mode] Oh, come on. Tons of people around here have their names shortened or abbreviated for quick reference, but you can’t do it for fun and insult? In the PIT? Richard Nixon did not like being called Tricky Dick, but tough titties, the nickname stuck. I’m sure Martin Luther King, Jr. didn’t like being called Liver Lipped Luther but that was hung on him, too. You can’t really control namecalling. Why should **Liberal** get a pass on something that’s not enforced on others? I flamed **Blake** not too long ago, renaming him at one point **That Twit Blake** and no one warned me. And no offense, **tom** , but don’t you moderate Great Debates? Wouldn’t this be a call an administrator or\*\* Lynn, Giraffe\*\* or **TVeblen** should make since this is their forum? ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/57 "2005-09-22T17:19:14Z")
Come on **Tom** , it is one thing to change username from **Frogswollow** to **Shigglepiss**. But for fuck sake for a dyed in the wool self proclaimed Libertarian to change his username to \*\*Liberal \*\* smacks of trollery (NOT an accusation that someone is a troll), Can we discuss this issue? Or is it verbotten? I for one don’t dislike **Liberal** nor do I wish to see him leave (this OP kind of makes me wonder though) but I do not see why a name change should be offlimits for discussion. Plus this is the pit we hurl insults we cuss we rant we whine we tease why should a username be offlimits for ridicule. Other forums ok, but why can I say someone is a scum sucking asshole goat feltching slime ball, but I can’t refer to what is in my opinion a disengenuous name change? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/58 "2005-09-22T17:26:45Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > > [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > > > I am **Hentor**! > > > > Hopefully I will get a moderator’s certification to reference as necessary. > > If you’ve got a link to someone hectoring you over your name, I’ll go give them a stern looking at. Okay, that was just too funny. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/59 "2005-09-22T17:28:03Z")
I don’t think that Tom is saying that we can’t talk about someone based on what they used to call themselves. I simply suspect that Tom forgot about his old name. > [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > Okay, that was just too funny. Oh, and it looks like I was the one who has been whoosed. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/60 "2005-09-22T17:30:02Z")
> [@Scott Plaid](#): > > . I simply suspect that Tom forgot about his old name. Please tell me you are kidding, Scott. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863.md?page=4)