# Comments on ATMB remarks from Tuba

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 22, 2005, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863 "2005-09-22T11:19:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/61 "2005-09-22T17:33:21Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> And no offense, **tom** , but don’t you moderate Great Debates? Wouldn’t this be a call an administrator or\*\* Lynn, Giraffe\*\* or **TVeblen** should make since this is their forum?

Where did you get the idea that mods are confined only to their “official” forums?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/62 "2005-09-22T17:33:38Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> I get you yet, SwissMiss.

SwissMiss? :mad:  
Don’t tempt me use my L33T powers to go change your username to Twinkletoes!

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/63 "2005-09-22T17:34:49Z")

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**hums a few bars of "It’s Like You Never Left"**

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/64 "2005-09-22T17:36:03Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> And no offense, **tom** , but don’t you moderate Great Debates? Wouldn’t this be a call an administrator or\*\* Lynn, Giraffe\*\* or **TVeblen** should make since this is their forum?

No. Moderator A from forum X is allowed to go into forum Y and set board policy.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/65 "2005-09-22T17:37:18Z")

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> [@Arnold Winkelried](#):
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> No. Moderator A from forum X is allowed to go into forum Y and set board policy.

It’s not even like he’s _setting_ it. The “no screwing around with usernames” is not new.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/66 "2005-09-22T17:38:20Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> Why should **Liberal** get a pass on something that’s not enforced on others?

Because he’s the only one who throws a pissy fit about it. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/67 "2005-09-22T17:40:41Z")

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> [@Arnold Winkelried](#):
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> No. Moderator A from forum X is allowed to go into forum Y and set board policy.

Um, I was told there would be no math in the Pit.

Welcome back, **Lib**. Hell of a re-entrance.

E.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/68 "2005-09-22T17:46:46Z")

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> [@Elza B](#):
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> Um, I was told there would be no math in the Pit.

😃

If moderator A leaves forum Y westbound at 37 mph, and moderator B leaves forum Z eastbound at 29 mph, how long will it take for **Liberal** to hit the “Report this Post” button?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/69 "2005-09-22T17:48:28Z")

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I brought up the issue because it was already resolved in a particular way, earlier. Several posters originally made it a habit to refer to **Liberal** as **Libertarian** after he explicitly asked them to stop. One persisted to the point where he was warned for the activity–a warning that figured in his later banning.

I am not out to spoil anyone’s _fun_, :rolleyes:, but since this particular issue has already been hashed over with a particular resolution, I figured it was better to remind folks of it now before it became a bigger issue.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/70 "2005-09-22T17:53:27Z")

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If I follow correctly, what **tomndeb** is cautioning folks about specifically is calling **Liberal** by his _former board name_, not shortening his name. Shortening up folk’s names is done frequently, and I’ve not seen it get a warning (unless of course, the shortening was done as an insult)

anyhow **Lib** glad you had a productive month.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/71 "2005-09-22T17:54:39Z")

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well shit. thanks a lot **deb**

😃

I keed, I keed.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/72 "2005-09-22T17:55:14Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I brought up the issue because it was already resolved in a particular way, earlier. Several posters originally made it a habit to refer to **Liberal** as **Libertarian** after he explicitly asked them to stop. One persisted to the point where he was warned for the activity–a warning that figured in his later banning.
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> I am not out to spoil anyone’s _fun_, :rolleyes:, but since this particular issue has already been hashed over with a particular resolution, I figured it was better to remind folks of it now before it became a bigger issue.

I did not realize the “no modifying usernames to mock” applied in the Pit.

Thanks for the clarification.

Regards,  
Shoehorn

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/73 "2005-09-22T18:08:53Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Where did you get the idea that mods are confined only to their “official” forums?

Up til now, I hadn’t really seen it happening except in a pile on when one forum’s moderator has already taken action and other moderators chime in pretty much after the fact.

> [@Captain Amazing](#):
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> Because he’s the only one who throws a pissy fit about it. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Evidentally.

I’m all for compromise. Why don’t we try the use of an epithet along with his unabbreviated Username? I suggest **Liberal** (the Troublesome Rollicking Overbearing Litigious Libertarian) or perhaps **Liberal** (the Largely Incessant Bitching Egomanic Really Talented At Regaling Irksome Autocratic Notions.) Shorten these at your posting peril. 😃

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**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/74 "2005-09-22T18:16:53Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> Why don’t we try the use of an epithet along with his unabbreviated Username?

How about instead we mock and attack his ideas and actions instead of his name? Is it really so hard to find legitimate things to critcize that you have to make fun of his name second-grader style? 😛

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/75 "2005-09-22T18:20:16Z")

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> [@Metacom](#):
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> How about instead we mock and attack his ideas and actions instead of his name? Is it really so hard to find legitimate things to critcize that you have to make fun of his name second-grader style? 😛

False dichotomy!

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/76 "2005-09-22T18:20:28Z")

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FINE. Have a rational discussion using logic to unseat his opinions and ill-considered beliefs! See if I care! 😛

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/77 "2005-09-22T18:20:30Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I brought up the issue because it was already resolved in a particular way, earlier. Several posters originally made it a habit to refer to **Liberal** as **Libertarian** after he explicitly asked them to stop. One persisted to the point where he was warned for the activity–a warning that figured in his later banning.

That one had decided that **Lib** must have been hiding _something_ or else wouldn’t have requested the change. The warning was at least in part to get him to knock off the accusations.

When my name change went through, I jokingly asked that it be kept quiet lest the same Doper accuse _me_ of trying to hide something as well.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/78 "2005-09-22T18:20:44Z")

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> [@Metacom](#):
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> How about instead we mock and attack his ideas and actions instead of his name? Is it really so hard to find legitimate things to critcize that you have to make fun of his name second-grader style? 😛

well yea. especially since one could have simply referred to him by “ **Lib** ” vs. the entire name. It actually took more work to type out his former name.

I’ve personally never found the need to change my user name here, but I can certainly understand why **anyone** would be irritated when they’re referred to by a former name. Would you have a difficult time understanding the irritation if some one called Kareem Abdul Jabar “Lew”? Or some newly married woman by her maiden name (if she changed it)?

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/79 "2005-09-22T18:23:09Z")

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Calling someone by a name they don’t like is a deliberate dig, a tactic I’ve used plenty of times in the Pit.

… son. 😃

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/80 "2005-09-22T18:24:31Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Please tell me you are kidding, Scott.

No, I really thought that tom forgot. I was wrong. Ah well.

Btw, I went to the store to buy some pie. I ordered pecan, but what I got tastes like crow.

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