# Comments on ATMB remarks from Tuba **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2005, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863 "2005-09-22T11:19:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/121 "2005-09-23T00:15:32Z")
> [@Coin](#): > > Remind me again why this is a SDMB thread instead of an email to Tuba? Sheesh, you been around since 2001 and never met Libertarian? Wow, just wow… ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/122 "2005-09-23T00:18:38Z")
Look at **Coin’s** post count. Poor schlub must’ve been living in a cave for the last four years. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/123 "2005-09-23T00:25:21Z")
> [@wring](#): > > actually I recall it being made more of a point with a couple of other posters who’d elected to have a name change after garnering a good bit of negative attention and trying to make a new begining and not have their past constantly thrown up at them. **IDBB** was one (I will, of course, grant that the change to **MHM** didn’t really help). > Changing their screen name was an attempt at a clean slate, and constant reminders from other posters of the old screen name made that attempt all the more difficult. so, from my own recollection, 'twasn’t a “ **Lib** ” inspired rule at all. Well, there was also that lying sack of trash, Aldeberan, who got quite upset over any changing of his username althought he loved to call Americans “USers” and basically told anyone who pointed out his hypocrisy to buzz off. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/124 "2005-09-23T00:26:45Z")
For a rugged individualist libertarian, **Liberal** sure is sensitive! I don’t see how referring to someone’s political views, especially when they’re as outspoken about those views and take pains to vocally apply those views to _every concievable situation_, as our friend **lib** does, can be construed as insulting. Do you feel insulted when I point out you’re a libertarian, **Liberal**? You can call me “liberal,” because I am one. I’m not insulted. But somehow calling **Liberal** a libertarian is insulting to him–so insulting, in fact, that it requires the intervention of a moderator. That’s awfully cooercive and authoritarian for a libertarian, isn’t it? Oh wait, maybe you’re a liberal now, **Liberal**. Still, I don’t know why it’s insulting to be called what you really are. Maybe you should try and improve your self esteem, **Liberal** , or are your self-esteem problems part of the reason you became a libertarian and are now so ashamed of it? There are so many things about libertarianism that I don’t understand. If only there were someone who could explain it to me. But all I see here are **Liberal** s, and they surely don’t understand libertarianism the way a true libertarian would. Nevertheless, I will refrain from calling the libertairan known as **Liberal** **libertarian** because I have respect for the rules of this board and I recognize that rules are sometimes necessary to keep order in social situaitons. I guess it’s the liberal in me. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/125 "2005-09-23T00:28:15Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > This thread has gotten sort of long and hard Bow chicka bow bow— > [@](#): > > _to follow._ Uh, never mind. Oh, and welcome back… second season of _Lost._ ---
**Author:** ![Bismillah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@Bismillah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bismillah)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/126 "2005-09-23T00:42:06Z")
> [@vibrotronica](#): > > Nevertheless, I will refrain from calling the libertairan known as **Liberal** **libertarian** because I have respect for the rules of this board and I recognize that rules are sometimes necessary to keep order in social situaitons. I guess it’s the liberal in me. Could we compromise and go with **Liberaltarian**? ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/127 "2005-09-23T00:44:14Z")
> [@Bismillah](#): > > Could we compromise and go with **Liberaltarian**? See you around buddy, that was too obvious… ---
**Author:** ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/128 "2005-09-23T00:45:42Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Sheesh, you been around since 2001 and never met Libertarian? Wow, just wow… Well, I of course I know who he is. I just assumed that someone who commands the respect he does from certain Dopers would know better than to publicly Pit someone over such a little thing so soon after being reinstated, especially when his suspension was in part because of jerkery. Live and learn. ---
**Author:** ![Bismillah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@Bismillah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bismillah)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/129 "2005-09-23T00:57:45Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > See you around buddy, that was too obvious… Sorry, what? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/130 "2005-09-23T01:03:12Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Anyways, what’s the rules on changing your name? Can I just go ahead and change my to NeoCon? Yes, you may. You can’t change it repeatedly, but an email to the mods will do it. ---
**Author:** ![InkBlot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5e925/32.png) [@InkBlot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InkBlot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/131 "2005-09-23T01:26:19Z")
> [@Bismillah](#): > > Sorry, what? 😕 I believe **askeptic** is trying to point out that the variant “ **Liberaltarian** ” has already been tried, and rejected (in the original mess when **Liberal** first changed his screen name). However, from what I can see, outside of **Liberal** ’s OP, nothing in this thread is new. It’s all the same old vitriol that’s been rehashed and rehashed. Some of the players may be new, some not, but the tune is the same. What surprises me is that **Lib** has been gone for 30 days, and has only made the one post in this thread…yet everyone was waiting to dogpile him. People want to complain about his habits? What is this? How is it helping anything? Gah, I think people here smell blood. They figure if they keep poking at him, **Liberal** will explode all over the board and they’ll ban him. Or he’ll voluntarily leave, a lesser victory. Who knows? Add enough fuel to the fire, and maybe it’ll happen. I’ll say this, for all the bookies trying to figure odds, if **Liberal** does go out over this, I don’t think he’ll be the first. Some of the schoolyard bullies around here are frothing a little too much right now, and they aren’t the only ones who know how to poke buttons. I’m just quite amazed at how pathetic many people here are acting. Thirty days obviously did nothing for some. InkBlot :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/132 "2005-09-23T01:38:20Z")
About a week back I was actually thinking to myself how the board had become more civil and on-point than it was before. Then I realized who was missing and it all made sense. I’m not joking about that comment. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/133 "2005-09-23T01:56:03Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > About a week back I was actually thinking to myself how the board had become more civil and on-point than it was before. Then I realized who was missing and it all made sense. > > I’m not joking about that comment. And you’re not the only one who’d noticed. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/134 "2005-09-23T02:03:31Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Posters shorten, nickname and otherwise mangle screennames a lot, which you may notice when you wipe the spittle off your screen. Big whoop. We aren’t the name police. Except in Lib’s case. He was making no effort to “start with a clean slate.” His intention was to hijack a word to mean what it means in his imagination and to misinform those who did not know him beforehand. Pretty trollish, if you ask me. And my word, **Aldebaran** and \*\*I Dig Bad Boys \*\* are such great company to keep. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Entertaining hissy fit, though. You like? I’ll have one for you, too, the next time you threaten people for using Lib’s REAL name. ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/135 "2005-09-23T02:28:20Z")
Personally, I’m tired of being called **Royal Studly Highness** , so I’d appreciate it if you people would knock it off. And stop sending me diamonds. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/136 "2005-09-23T02:33:17Z")
> [@AlbertRose](#): > > And stop sending me diamonds. Oh, come on! [They sure is purty!](http://www.debeersgroup.com/NR/rdonlyres/B548F756-0A7A-4D4D-AEFA-2C253F2D9A71/383/Diamonds2_download.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/137 "2005-09-23T02:43:55Z")
I’ve said this before and it really seems to piss people off, but be that as it may… I like ol’ **Lib**! Welcome back, chum. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/138 "2005-09-23T02:47:32Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Yes, you may. You can’t change it repeatedly, but an email to the mods will do it. Wow. What a neat concept. Now I’ve just got to find some half-assed bullshit rationalization so when I change it to some political philosophy I can get the most bang for my buck. Can I switch to a username that’s no longer in use? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/139 "2005-09-23T02:50:27Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > . > > Can I switch to a username that’s no longer in use? > > -Joe No. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863/140 "2005-09-23T02:51:46Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > No. Ah well, so much for my first instinct, then. Good thing you guys let **Liberal** set a precendent, though. This could be entertaining. -Joe [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-on-atmb-remarks-from-tuba/322863.md?page=8)