Comments on Registration Agreement

Standard disclaimer: I ain’t a lawyer, but a summary seems in order. The OP raised three points:

The question was about whether you can post material where you have been given permission by the copyright holder. The answer is: the burden of proof of whether you have permissions rests with you. We have neither the time nor resources to check each quote that goes beyond “fair use,” and our standard practice is to delete such material. Often we post in the thread that, if the poster thinks it was deleted unfairly, they can send us an email proving that they have some sort of copyright permission (or that copyright has run out) and we’ll restore it.

Also obviously, we are very forgiving if someone runs afoul of this rule now and then. Repeated abuse of the rule is a serious offense.

The objection was, what will the ISP do if someone is lookin’ for romance on our boards? I agree that there is a slight ambiguity that this applies only to the paragraph it is in. I believe it applies to the prior three or four paragraphs about various things that cannot be posted (illegal acts, copyright issues, selling, etc.) Agreed, it’s pretty much useless now but it wasn’t then… and, in some circumstances, a server might actually do something if the offense were egregious.

The first response here (as made by others) is that it would be a pain in the arse if a person, after being banned, demanded the removal of all their posts, cleansing of all posts that quoted them, etc. A mass delete isn’t enough: when a starter post is deleted, the whole thread is deleted, which would wreck the history. And, of course, if the 3rd, 4th, 7th, and 10th posts were deleted, it would kind of make hash of the flow of a discussion.

The second question on this seems to be whether “in any manner” might include without attribution. I think not: first, the actual quote is “to reuse your posting in any manner.” [bold mine] The prior sentence also refers to “your own work.” The Registration clearly recognizes authorship and would obviously attribute such.

Suppose Cecil or Ed wanted to quote a thread in a Straight Dope book (this is the only use the READER has made of board-posted material to date, so far as I am aware.) The concept of finding all the posters to get their specific permission, when some of them may have left the boards long ago, would be a nightmare. Hence, the language gives the READER the right to use such material without having to go through hideous legalisms.

The READER is a weekly newspaper, that has published the works of many, many authors over the last 30-some years, and has never been accused of failing to attribute such works. Our instructions as moderators are to be overly zealous in protecting copyright works; if there’s any doubt, we are to err on the side of caution and protection. The READER doesn’t want anyone misusing its material, and therefore does not allow posters to misues the material of others. I don’t think you need have any fears that “in any manner” implies illegal use or unattributed use.

Or the staff could spend the time an effort to file their designated DCMA agent with the Copyright Office. And that would pretty much be it. The DCMA is screwed up in man ways, but Title II pretty broadly limits user-generated liability.

They already have policies in place to respond to copyright infringement, they’d just have to put them in motion as normal (which I’m assuming is “exeditiously”) if a take-down notice is properly received.

Thanks for the reassurance. I guess it comes down to trust after all.

Yeah, alterego: I think that if there’s mutual trust and respect, the precise legal language is pretty much irrelevant. And, of course, if there’s NOT mutual trust and respect, the precise legal language is pretty much irrelevant. :wink:

Are you really worried about having your writings attributed to your username on an anonymous message board? Or would you want them attributed to your real name?

If the former, how is anyone going to know that they belong to you personally? Are you just worried that the other people on this board won’t know they belong to your on-line persona?

If the latter, in many cases the real name of the author may be unavailable (in the case of guests, or of anyone who may have had their account paid for by someone else, or anyone who didn’t pay by credit card, etc). Also, I am sure many many people here would not want some of their posts attributed to their real name. :wink:

I’m OK with the firstborn, but I’m a little squeamish. Is there any way we can do this without all the blood?

You learn what’s acceptable just by seeing how others behave. It all boils down to not being a jerk, not posting anything that would contribute to illegal activity–including copyright violation, and following the 2-click rule for anything that might be NSFW.

Also include pictures on any cat thread.

You may not be a lawyer, but you explained the Reader’s position quite well. And frankly, it’s perfectly reasonable.

Yeah, that was the gist of my question. I couldn’t come up with an inventive rant to save my life, so the question related to what I might read from another poster.

The next question, then, is: Would the Reader allow such a usage to occur? Film/TV credits often list “Used with the Permission of…” and other variations when productions use copyrighted material (poems, book excerpts, etc.). Does the Reader have a hypothetical policy about this, or is it something they have never considered?

The Reader doesn’t have the right to say no. Their right is only for use, not control.

Now, the Reader has some say over whether your character can say, “Well, as I once read on the website boards.straightdope.com…”, but they can’t stop you from using your own materials or another user’s material with that user’s permission.