# Commissar is a troll. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 24, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407 "2011-02-24T02:12:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/281 "2011-07-07T00:52:05Z")
> [@Doctor](#): > > Funny thing is I know a lot of Russians, from Russia within the last few years. And not one of them sounds anything like Commissar AT ALL. In fact, they sound like most Americans I know… Well, the “get moose and squirrel” lack of articles can be a difference. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/282 "2011-07-07T01:44:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Would that have been your reply to someone who posted [this?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10498965&postcount=11) Shut up, you fucking troll. Seriously, make your own pit thread about posts **Shodan** made three years ago if it bothers you so much. Nobody gives a shit about your obsession with Shodan, and I say this as a poster who very rarely agrees with Shodan on anything. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/283 "2011-07-07T11:30:47Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Would that have been your reply to someone who posted [this?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10498965&postcount=11) ETA: nm, **Dissonance** beat me to it. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/284 "2011-07-07T11:34:43Z")
Yeah, I didn’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/285 "2011-07-07T12:05:50Z")
“Thinking” isn’t a process associated with your posts at all, **Elvis**. But let’s not get distracted here. **Commissar** is a fucking troll, let’s focus there. Your rather touching little crush on me can wait until after he’s banned, as he should be. Regards, Shodan PS - **Commissar** , shut up. You’re a fucking troll. ---
**Author:** ![Commissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Commissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Commissar)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/286 "2011-07-07T16:21:26Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Sure, but though these occur in the liberal democracies, we can discuss them freely and mechanisms exists to challenge their legality. Try living in North Korea or Libya or Iran or Cuba and openly discussing how unfair secret arrests and indefinite detentions are. > > Go on, try it. I dare you. > I _double_ dare you. Once again, not a winning argument. You know you’re on shaky ground when your position ultimately boils down to, “Yeah, we may kill you just as hard as all those authoritarian governments would, and we may take your rights away just as quickly, and we may be as likely to torture you to death in a concentration camp… But at least we’ll let you talk about it first!” Yeah… Color me unimpressed. > [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Moreover, no real communist would support the rule of reactionary mullahs. > [@](#): > > As it is, you fucked up and made mistakes that no actual Russian would make. I note that you’re back to using ridiculous blanket statements. This was neither intelligent nor rational the last time I called you out on it, and it hasn’t become more of either in the interim. I renew my previous question: what makes you qualified to determine what a “real [C]ommunist” and an “actual Russian” should speak and think like? Have you acquired this awesome skill through years and years of practice, training, and psychological analysis? See, from where I’m sitting, it looks like you’re doing one of two things. One, you could be trying to anger me, in which case your juvenile attempts to do so are really pretty sad. Or, you’re simply the type of person that makes “All Communists do X”/"All blacks are Y/“All Jews think Z” type of statements as a matter of course… Which is equally pitifully sad. So, which one is it? Maybe a touch of both? > [@Dissonance](#): > > Shut up, you fucking troll. > > Seriously, make your own pit thread about posts **Shodan** made three years ago if it bothers you so much. Nobody gives a shit about your obsession with Shodan, and I say this as a poster who very rarely agrees with Shodan on anything. Since I “give a shit,” I must say that your assertion that “nobody gives a shit” is somewhat, er, shitty, as it were. Seriously, if our resident fundie is going to be spamming moronic hypocritical statements in this thread, then this thread is a perfect place to point out his propensity for making moronic hypocritical statements. If this offends your fragile sensitivities, then maybe the BBQ Pit is not the proper board for you. > [@Shodan](#): > > “Thinking” isn’t a process associated with your posts at all, **Elvis**. “Thinking” isn’t a process you can possibly grasp, our silly friend. Seriously, don’t try. You’ll give yourself a migraine. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/287 "2011-07-07T16:23:28Z")
Shut up, you fucking troll. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/288 "2011-07-07T16:31:12Z")
Oh trollin trollin trollin, though the knee deep bullshit strollin, keep dem dogies trollin…Rawhide! _whhhiiipppcraaacccckkkk!_ FWIW I particularly found your reply to Bryan Ekers hilarious. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Doctor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Doctor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/289 "2011-07-07T17:40:47Z")
One down, one to go. Another clown shown the door… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/290 "2011-07-07T19:19:08Z")
> [@Commissar](#): > > Once again, not a winning argument. You know you’re on shaky ground when your position ultimately boils down to, “Yeah, we may kill you just as hard as all those authoritarian governments would, and we may take your rights away just as quickly, and we may be as likely to torture you to death in a concentration camp… But at least we’ll let you talk about it first!” Ah, but the liberal democracies _don’t_ take away rights just as quickly, they _don’t_ torture people to death as often and though the U.S. has capital punishment, it’s relatively unusual among the liberal democracies for it. And even the U.S. would have to ramp up its use of the death penalty several orders of magnitude to rival one of Stalin’s mood-swing purges. But I have no expectation that facts matter to you. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/291 "2011-07-07T19:56:03Z")
> [@Commissar](#): > > Since I “give a shit,” I must say that your assertion that “nobody gives a shit” is somewhat, er, shitty, as it were. See, this is why you are failing so miserably as a troll. You have proven my colloquialism is not literally true! I should be angered by this! Hmm, Elvis must give a shit about his own obsession, thus there are at least two people who give a shit, and I’d still not be literally true even if you didn’t give a shit. Help, I’ve fallen into a logic hole and can’t get up! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/292 "2011-07-07T20:21:34Z")
Here’s a question: With the “new, improved banhammer” slamming recently, how’d it manage to miss the subject of this thread? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/293 "2011-07-07T20:40:01Z")
He’s more subtle (and probably quite bit smarter) than Le Jac…and he also doesn’t post as much. His time will come though, I have no doubt, and I’d be shocked if his name isn’t being bandied about in the secret Mod back channels, or if they don’t have an ever growing file on this guy as well. It’s just a matter of time… -XT ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/294 "2011-07-07T21:42:54Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Hmm, Elvis must give a shit about his own obsession Not an obsession at all, just an enjoyment of the amusement value of seeing \*\*Shodan \*\*complain about \*other \*people proclaiming their \*own \*trollhood without consequence. Don’t you enjoy watching the monkeys at the zoo howling, jumping, and hurling feces? That’s all I’m doing here, except without the going to the zoo bit. Now, who the fuck are you and why should anyone care about your opinion on anything? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/295 "2011-07-07T21:48:54Z")
So, we get to see the monkey howling, jumping and hurling shit part with your post? That’s what you are doing? Well…ok. I have to say that I don’t actually enjoy either going to the zoo to see monkeys throw poo nor seeing you do it here on this board, but MMV. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/296 "2011-07-07T22:14:28Z")
> [@Commissar](#): > > I note that you’re back to using ridiculous blanket statements. This was neither intelligent nor rational the last time I called you out on it, and it hasn’t become more of either in the interim. I renew my previous question: what makes you qualified to determine what a “real [C]ommunist” and an “actual Russian” should speak and think like? Have you acquired this awesome skill through years and years of practice, training, and psychological analysis? > > See, from where I’m sitting, it looks like you’re doing one of two things. One, you could be trying to anger me, in which case your juvenile attempts to do so are really pretty sad. Or, you’re simply the type of person that makes “All Communists do X”/"All blacks are Y/“All Jews think Z” type of statements as a matter of course… Which is equally pitifully sad. So, which one is it? Maybe a touch of both? Hmm… I notice you completely dodged the part where I ridiculed you for stupidly claiming that Iran had “one party rule” but you can’t be blamed for that. And yes, I don’t see how any true communist could support the rule of the Mullahs of Iran. So, please explain to me why you would support the rule of the Ayatollahs and their crushing of the Tudeh Party(Iran’s communist party) and the torture and murder of it’s members. Where I come from Communists don’t support the crushing of Communist parties and the jailing and murdering of the members of Communist parties, but perhaps you can explain why true Communists like yourself support such things. Beyond that, yes, there are certain mistakes people can make which do betray their background. For example if someone on the internet claims they were raised an Orthodox Jew and “went to Temple every week” then something’s wrong because Orthodox Jews refer to their place of worship as “Synagogue” not “Temple”(whereas some Reform and Conservative Jews refer to their place of worship as “Temple”). Similarly, Russians refer to their “motherland” not to their “homeland”. Had you done the research you wouldn’t have made such a foolish mistake. But anyway, please explain how a true Communist would support the Mullahs and the jailing of Communists and the banning of Iran’s Communist party that the Iranian government imposed. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/297 "2011-07-07T22:23:24Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > He’s more subtle (and probably quite bit smarter) than Le Jac…and he also doesn’t post as much. His time will come though, I have no doubt, and I’d be shocked if his name isn’t being bandied about in the secret Mod back channels, or if they don’t have an ever growing file on this guy as well. It’s just a matter of time… > > -XT Quite a bit smarter isn’t exactly a compliment when you’re talking about LeJackoff. You did use the qualifier (probably) so that makes sense. LJ is a troll of the highest order. He’ll be back – I don’t think he can help himself. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/298 "2011-07-08T00:05:48Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > FWIW I particularly found your reply to Bryan Ekers hilarious. Personally I preferred the trolling abut how expecting ideological consistency from an ideology is the same as racism. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/299 "2011-07-08T01:36:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Now, who the fuck are you? Not someone who waits three years to bitch about a poster on a messageboard, in a totally unrelated thread. Honestly, once you start linking three year old posts the way that you have, you’ve got to get a hobby. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/300 "2011-07-08T02:41:50Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That’s all I’m doing here, except without the going to the zoo bit. Even if someone were to buy that, do you usually jump in with the monkeys and fling shit along with them? If you notice a monkey who flung shit at you three years ago, do you vocally make sure that everyone around knows about that aged simian transgression? > [@](#): > > Now, who the fuck are you and why should anyone care about your opinion on anything? He doesn’t have to defend his right to express an opinion to you, does he? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407.md?page=16)