# Commissar is a troll. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 24, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407 "2011-02-24T02:12:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/21 "2011-02-24T03:40:54Z")
Commissar is a troll. The sky is blue. Rain is wet. There is porn on the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/22 "2011-02-24T03:43:44Z")
Do you have a cite that there is porn on the internet??? :dubious: -XT ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/23 "2011-02-24T03:49:08Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Do you have a cite that there is porn on the internet??? :dubious: > > -XT Funny encounter of the day: I was looking for images related or covers of the albums in the [1000 billboard number 1 singles](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=598245) in almost real time with the 5 second clips of the songs, when I reached Issac Hayes and his Shaft theme… looking for shaft and “who is the man” should not be done with safe search off. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Doctor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Doctor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/24 "2011-02-24T03:53:41Z")
But his OP on Libya was the funniest thing I read all week! At least he is a funny troll. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/25 "2011-02-24T04:00:47Z")
[QUOTE=GIGObuster] Funny encounter of the day: I was looking for images related or covers of the albums in the 1000 billboard number 1 singles in almost real time with the 5 second clips of the songs, when I reached Issac Hayes and his Shaft theme… looking for shaft and “who is the man” should not be done with safe search off. [/QUOTE] Yeah, I’ve had some interesting search results myself…and my personal machine at home does in fact have safe search turned off and is completely unfiltered (unlike the other machines on my network). Ah, the pitfalls of modern life. 😉 -XT ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/26 "2011-02-24T04:12:55Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > According to his own posts he immigrated to the US. That means that’s he’s intentionally a citizen of the country he despises so much. Can’t be bothered to go back and look, but wasn’t it his parents who took him to the US before he turned adult? But yes, a troll, and his writing style reminds me of one poster in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/27 "2011-02-24T04:28:47Z")
Yup. Trolly McTrollerson. Unfortunately, he’s savvy enough to avoid most outright rule violations, so he’s prolly going to be here a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/28 "2011-02-24T04:39:11Z")
I agree he’s a troll. Mostly because I don’t want to believe anyone could seriously think some of the nonsense he’s claimed. But give him credit. It would have been easy to come here and pretend to be a hardcore rightwing nut. It takes some artistry to play a leftwing fool. ---
**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/29 "2011-02-24T04:42:52Z")
But if he is for real we should track him down and fatten him up to play the role of Ignatius J. Reilly in the film version of **A Confederacy of Dunces**. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/30 "2011-02-24T05:20:00Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > A person who really believes in the subject wouldn’t say they are too valuable to be relegated to simply teaching English…they would see their proper place as simply one more cog in the mechanism of society, willing to fit in where needed. There have been other things that he’s said that were just…off. Well, maybe he’s more into the “Some animals are created more equal than other animals” spiel. > [@](#): > > Yeah, he might be an elementary or secondary school student. I think college student, as his knowledge of Marx’s et al seems beyond a ‘dumb’ elementary or secondary school kid to me. YMMV however. My guess is that he’s just swallowing wholesale what one of his teachers, an “anti-establishment” type, has been preaching. He’s simply regurgitating that person’s knowledge of the material in question. That could also explain why he has no clue about the real effects of communism where it was actually practiced. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/31 "2011-02-24T05:26:30Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, maybe he’s more into the “Some animals are created more equal than other animals” spiel. A Randian Communist? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/32 "2011-02-24T06:38:56Z")
… Orwell ---
**Author:** ![Commissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Commissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Commissar)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/33 "2011-02-24T06:55:01Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > I mean, ok…I get that he seriously has a hard on about American and hates the country (he’s probably a citizen which isn’t surprising). Der Trihs is much the same on that score. The difference is hard to define, but to me it’s there. Der comes across as, well, ‘real’. He’s freaking bat shit nuts sometimes, and on anything that pushes his buttons he’s completely over the top…but it’s genuine bat shittery and over-the-toppedness. Commissar, IMHO, seems…less genuine. More an affectation. More…deliberate. Like he’s trying to get a rise out of people. > > Even Le Jacquelope, who I also consider to be a complete troll, is more genuine about his nutty world view. I believe that Le Jac believes everything he is saying, whole heartedly. This guy…I’m not buying it, especially after this latest thread. > > -XT I’m sorry that you feel that way. For the record, I genuinely do believe everything that I have said on these boards, and I do consider myself a Communist in the true sense of the term. Of course, this is exactly what I would say if this were all an act, so you will likely choose to disbelieve it… There’s nothing I can do about your feelings, my friend. I wish that I “felt” more real to you, but there’s little I can do to make you so. My advice to you and those that feel that this is an act: don’t participate. If you believe that I am leading you along by pushing your buttons, than you are wasting both your time and mine by playing along. I have no interest in debating people that dismiss my positions as a joke, and I can’t imagine that you have much interest in debating someone you assume is giggling into his keyboard. If you really think that I’m a troll, do us both a favor and avoid my threads. > [@spark240](#): > > Has he ever articulated what his communism and anti-Americanism are _for_? That is, does he ever espouse any values, or just the rhetoric? > > Pretty much every human value I can think of would be trampled either in the achievement or the fulfillment of his rhetoric, if that were possible. I take the utilitarian approach there; the ultimate goal of any social system (economic, political, or otherwise) ought to be the maximizing of human happiness. I believe that socialism inherently creates more happiness than capitalism (assuming that both are implemented with the same degree of care). Thus, when you dig deep enough, my core “value” is happiness. > [@Tristan](#): > > At this point, yeah, I am convinced that he’s making up a ton of his schtick. > > I was originally interested in “talking” to someone from a culture that I find so fascinating (Soviet Union) but I have tossed him a few bones, and he ignores them. I really do think he’s a troll at this point. I disagree. We have had a good amount of interaction so far, and, with no offense intended, I have found your arguments sub-par. I believe that I have done a good job demolishing your positions, my friend, so I’m not sure what “bones” you refer to. Also, all biographical statements that I have made on these boards are true. I am sorry that you choose to not believe me, but that matter is out of my hands. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/34 "2011-02-24T07:01:34Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > remember a few years back, there was some fundamentalist poster here who truly believed that he was a good debater because of the rise he got out of other posters? > > i do, though i can’t recall his or her name off the top of my head. That was ARG220. ---
**Author:** ![Commissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Commissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Commissar)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/35 "2011-02-24T07:08:21Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > I will say that he does seem to have actually read a lot of the writings of Marx and Engels (or he’s got really good Google-Fu skilz). However, his posts come across as someone who studied the writings in college, then built a construct personality of a modern communist thinker. A person who really believes in the subject wouldn’t say they are too valuable to be relegated to simply teaching English…they would see their proper place as simply one more cog in the mechanism of society, willing to fit in where needed. There have been other things that he’s said that were just…off. > > -XT I think that now you’re getting closer to the core of your problem, my friend. The error in your reasoning is that you assume that all Communists will fit your preconceived notions of what Communists should be like, and the fact that, at times, I may deviate from your stereotype, tends to sow discord in your mind. You need to let these biases go and realize that humans minds are different, and will come up with different angles even when considering the same concept. You’re probably not the kind of person that would go around saying "All blacks like \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ " or "All women act \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ " Claiming that there is a mold that all Communists must fit is no less ignorant. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I agree he’s a troll. Mostly because I don’t want to believe anyone could seriously think some of the nonsense he’s claimed. Yes, I think that this is what trips many of you (i.e. posters in this thread) up. You do not wish to imagine a world in which people think as I do, so you find it easiest to discount my words as farcical or insincere. It is the ostrich-with-his-head-in-the-sand approach to debate; upon encountering arguments that displease you, pretend that they don’t exist and hope that they go away. An easy response, but an intellectually lazy one, nonetheless. There are probably many things that you don’t want to “seriously think” exist, but reality has the nasty habit of intruding upon our own dream-worlds. Tough luck; I exist. You may as well face this fact head-on rather than futilely try to escape it. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/36 "2011-02-24T07:16:22Z")
I particularly like the “my friend” bit of trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/37 "2011-02-24T07:38:38Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > [Oh Ah Oh!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guvo7gUdUnE) Mambo Italiano! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/38 "2011-02-24T08:02:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I agree he’s a troll. Mostly because I don’t want to believe anyone could seriously think some of the nonsense he’s claimed. > > But give him credit. It would have been easy to come here and pretend to be a hardcore rightwing nut. It takes some artistry to play a leftwing fool. Meh. Obvious trolling is bad trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/39 "2011-02-24T08:12:46Z")
> [@Commissar](#): > > Yes, I think that this is what trips many of you (i.e. posters in this thread) up. You do not wish to imagine a world in which people think as I do, so you find it easiest to discount my words as farcical or insincere. It is the ostrich-with-his-head-in-the-sand approach to debate; upon encountering arguments that displease you, pretend that they don’t exist and hope that they go away. An easy response, but an intellectually lazy one, nonetheless. There are probably many things that you don’t want to “seriously think” exist, but reality has the nasty habit of intruding upon our own dream-worlds. Tough luck; I exist. You may as well face this fact head-on rather than futilely try to escape it. No, it’s more like I don’t see you having what it takes to be an actual communist. A real communist would be more convincing. You come off more like somebody pretending to be a communist without anything more than a superficial knowlege about the subject. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/40 "2011-02-24T08:19:16Z")
For me, it’s the tide of dishonesty, ignorance, stupidity and sheer trollish disingenuousness that does it. Reasonable people can disagree on exactly what make it so clear that commy is a troll, of course. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407.md?page=3)