# Commissar is a troll.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 24, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407 "2011-02-24T02:12:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/41 "2011-02-24T09:40:12Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> …I agree with whoever it was that somewhere, in some thread, described **Commissar** as “performance art”.

That was me.

And yes, comes off as someone playing a part. Too arch, too stereotyped.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/42 "2011-02-24T11:46:14Z")

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\*\*Commissar \*\*, I personally do not think you’re a troll. In fact, I’m happy to know people like you exist - because if we didn’t keep you around to get angry at us, how would we know we were doing something right?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/43 "2011-02-24T12:55:22Z")

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Obvious troll is obvious.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/44 "2011-02-24T12:55:27Z")

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**Commissar** , if you are indeed not a troll and you really do believe everything you’ve posted on these boards, especially with regards to Libya then here’s a hearty **FUCK YOU**.

And no, I’m not your friend

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/45 "2011-02-24T14:15:39Z")

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You get a large enough group and pretty soon you’re bound to attract a loon from the other side of reason. We got Commissar. It could have been worse.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/46 "2011-02-24T14:31:25Z")

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Commissar isn’t a loon though, he just plays one for lulz. Stupidity/ignorance could be explained by simple looneyness, but his relentless dishonesty points to a knowing campaign to sell a persona/piss people off. Check the NK/SK pit thead or it’s GD progenitor, for example. Commie likes to make shut up and, when caught, try to change the subject to yet another bit of bullshit that he hopes will piss people off.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/47 "2011-02-24T14:54:42Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I particularly like the “my friend” bit of trolling.

Hey, it helped John McCain win the election, so…wait, what?

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/48 "2011-02-24T15:13:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Commissar]  
I have no interest in debating people that dismiss my positions as a joke, and I can’t imagine that you have much interest in debating someone you assume is giggling into his keyboard. If you really think that I’m a troll, do us both a favor and avoid my threads.  
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I do believe that you are trolling. However, as I’ve told Gonzo and Le Jac, I’m not here to debate YOU, or to take your positions seriously, but to comment on and address your claims or assertions. You (or they) aren’t worth ‘debating’ (certainly not on this Libya thing in your case). I’m here to fight ignorance…my own in a lot of cases, and other peoples if I can. If you throw out an obviously trolling OP like the one in GD about Libya then I’m there to dismiss your positions and take them as a joke, making you look as bad and stupid as I can. Not because I necessarily want to hurt you (I think you are trolling, so any insults or dismissal of your position will be at worst water off a duck, and at best it’s what feeds you and makes you happy), but for the lurkers out there who may be following along. If they see you and your over the top and obviously affected responses for what they are, then they are going to dismiss you as either a clown or deluded. Either works for me. I AM just a wheel or cog in the machine that is the SD…I add my derision and scorn (when needed) to the mix of better and more knowledgeable posters in an effort to grind away the ignorance, stupidity and, of course, trolls like you who are just trying to get a rise.

As in a CT thread, a lurker coming in and seeing the treatment of someone trying to advocate that Kaddafi is a great leader, unjustly persecuted by the traitorous elements, rebels, terrorists and The West™ is going to see your positions mocked and shredded, and hopefully that lurker is going to go away at least a little bit more enlightened. Even if he or she never bothers to read more about what is going on in Libya, they are going to remember the mockery and derision heaped on you in this thread and take away the impression that anyone peddling this sort of horseshit in the future is a nutter…or, if they followed up by reading this thread, a troll.

-XT

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/49 "2011-02-24T15:55:34Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> When he grows up, maybe, just maybe, he’ll look back on his support for the most murderous scum of all time and shake his head at what kind of naïf he was.

The ironic thing is that I can see him in twenty years glued to Glenn Beck Jr’s tri-vid show, nodding his head in agreement at the rant about how the doom of the Republic was sealed when Obama stole the 2012 election from Sarah Palin.

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**Author:** ![Commissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Commissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Commissar)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/50 "2011-02-24T16:56:02Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No, it’s more like I don’t see you having what it takes to be an actual communist. A real communist would be more convincing. You come off more like somebody pretending to be a communist without anything more than a superficial knowlege about the subject.

… In which case you’re back to **xtisme** ’s error of attempting to view me through a stereotypical lens. Once again, you fall back on ignorant bias. Look at your statement - the one I just quoted. Would you ever begin a sentence with “A real Jew would be… ?” How about “A real homosexual would be… ?” I don’t think you would, unless you are more crass and less educated than I assume. What then makes you believe that it is rational and/or appropriate to make definitive statements about what “a real communist” should do? Since when are we Communists obliged to follow a philosophical route that you, a non-Communist, wish to prescribe to us? That is quite bizarre and arrogant of you. I wouldn’t presume to teach you how to be a “real” capitalist or democrat, and I would appreciate it if you would show me the same level of intellectual respect, my friend.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/51 "2011-02-24T17:01:33Z")

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Dude, you are clearly a gimmick poster. Worse, you’re ripping off a gimmick used by Ivan Koloff (a Canadian pretending to be a Russian) and every other “Russian” heel that ever worked a pro wrestling match. You’re a fucking farce. Strongly suspect you are also a sock puppet. I look forward to your banning.

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**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/52 "2011-02-24T17:34:05Z")

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> [@Kozmik](#):
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> Meh. Any year after 1999… will be another year to [the year zero](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(year)). I’m rooting for the year 2059.
> 
> Waterworld here we come! 😃  
> Somebody had to say it.

I have no idea what this means, or how it pertains to this thread. Can you help me out?😕

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/53 "2011-02-24T17:57:04Z")

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I think it means Kevin Costner is due for a big comeback.

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**Author:** ![akira5822](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@akira5822](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akira5822)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/54 "2011-02-24T18:22:06Z")

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[quote=“Jack\_Batty, post:53, topic:572407”]

I think it means Kevin Costner is due for a big comeback.[/QUOT

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! (Runs) 😛

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/55 "2011-02-24T18:41:22Z")

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Is it just a coincidence that **Commissar** returns just as the news breaks that Kevin Costner will be playing Jonathan Kent in the new Superman movie?

I think not.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/56 "2011-02-24T19:41:05Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Dude, you are clearly a gimmick poster. Worse, you’re ripping off a gimmick used by Ivan Koloff (a Canadian pretending to be a Russian) and every other “Russian” heel that ever worked a pro wrestling match. You’re a fucking farce. Strongly suspect you are also a sock puppet. I look forward to your banning.

Come to think of it, I’ve never seen Commissar and Le Jaqueloop simulpost!  
:eek::eek::eek:

Otherwise, what Shodan said.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/57 "2011-02-24T19:54:40Z")

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I read the OP in question. And there’s some real fucked-up logical FAIL in there.

In my not so humble opinion, **Commissar** is a slapstick troll – it’s much more useful to laugh at him and discuss the issues among ourselves, than it is to talk with him.

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**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/58 "2011-02-24T19:55:02Z")

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Why people even pay enough attention to Commie to Pit him, is beyond me. Even with only a two-line OP.

DNFTT.

(And yes, I’m aware of the seeming irony of chiming in to say, “Don’t chime in,” but I’m not FTT here; just observing that other people more or less _are_.)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/59 "2011-02-24T23:56:09Z")

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I think I’ve found Commissar’s [theme song](http://www.bobrivers.com/#v8412).

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commissar-is-a-troll/572407/60 "2011-02-25T00:50:13Z")

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> [@Cyningablod](#):
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> Why people even pay enough attention to Commie to Pit him, is beyond me. Even with only a two-line OP.
> 
> DNFTT.

He’s a fun troll to watch, and very funny.  
I mean, come on, in response to the fact that he does not conform to the ideology he purports to support, he claims that calling for logical consistency is the same as being bigoted against Jews or gays.

That’s the kind of straight faced troll comedy that you just can’t buy.

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