# Commission admits issues with Trump mic.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299 "2016-09-30T18:54:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/1 "2016-09-30T18:54:34Z")

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[Well](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-debate-mic-issues-228968).

Well then…:eek:

Are they t\*rying \*to get him elected? I would have thought with a candidate like that they would have made every effort to make sure everything was working perfectly. Now he has an excuse. Which I don’t \<sarcasm\> think he’ll use much\</sarcasm\>

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/2 "2016-09-30T18:59:45Z")

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Excuse for what? It’s not like everybody didn’t plainly hear him go off the rails and into the woods. “Mic problems” don’t turn golden bon mots into incomprehensible word salad. He also had two mics going - one on the lectern and one on his lapel. Is he saying that the lapel mic was up too loud, and it picked up his hanky rustling and it sounded like sniffling? Sorry, Don - you still sounded like an idiot, and you still got your ass kicked.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/3 "2016-09-30T18:59:52Z")

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> But the debate commission partially validated Trump’s claim Friday. “Regarding the first debate, there were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the **sound level in the debate hall** ,” it said in a statement.

Which didn’t affect the 84 million watching on TV.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/4 "2016-09-30T19:00:20Z")

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I watched that debate, and Trump should be pissed. That mike made him say all kinds of stupid shit.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/5 "2016-09-30T19:02:21Z")

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Anything that helps Trump convince himself not to change anything helps Hillary, IMO.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/6 "2016-09-30T19:02:57Z")

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You do realise that he now has a perfect excuse. He (except for the first 10-20 minutes) was lousy, no doubt but perception that he is trying to create is that the powers that be are against him and this assist in it,=.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/7 "2016-09-30T19:03:47Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I watched that debate, and Trump should be pissed. That mike made him say all kinds of stupid shit.

OK, that made me laugh.

The mike was probably made in China, like his “Make America Great Again” hats.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/8 "2016-09-30T19:04:37Z")

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Don’t know about you, but I heard every word he said. And this:

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> …there were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that _affected the sound level in the debate hall._…

(emphasis added)

is somewhat ambiguous. Does it mean that there were problems with the sound level in the debate hall, but not necessarily in the audio feed to cable TV? The hall was filled proportionally, half Republicans, presumably Trump supporters. And nobody said anything?

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**Author:** ![Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tired_and_Cranky)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/9 "2016-09-30T19:16:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Does it mean that there were problems with the sound level in the debate hall, but not necessarily in the audio feed to cable TV? The hall was filled proportionally, half Republicans, presumably Trump supporters. And nobody said anything?

Boy do I hate defending that man-child but I’ll do it here.

It sounds like there were problems just in the debate hall. Some have suggested that Trump performs better in front of a live, friendly audience. Perhaps if the audience couldn’t hear him well and couldn’t respond to the idiotic things he said, it could have put him off his game – except that the audience wasn’t supposed to respond at all. In theory, the audience not hearing him should have not had the slightest effect on his performance. He should have expected no response to anything he said and acted accordingly.

I don’t know if this same problem would have affected his monitors which might have made it tougher for him to know if Hillary was ignoring his interruptions because she couldn’t hear him or just because ignoring him is generally the best idea.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/10 "2016-09-30T19:16:49Z")

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It might have affected the audibility at Hofstra but had no visible impact on what was happening in the living rooms of millions of people.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/11 "2016-09-30T19:20:44Z")

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> [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](#):
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> Boy do I hate defending that man-child but I’ll do it here.
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> It sounds like there were problems just in the debate hall. Some have suggested that Trump performs better in front of a live, friendly audience. Perhaps if the audience couldn’t hear him well and couldn’t respond to the idiotic things he said, it could have put him off his game – except that the audience wasn’t supposed to respond at all. In theory, the audience not hearing him should have not had the slightest effect on his performance. He should have expected no response to anything he said and acted accordingly.
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> I don’t know if this same problem would have affected his monitors which might have made it tougher for him to know if Hillary was ignoring his interruptions because she couldn’t hear him or just because ignoring him is generally the best idea.

The real problem is that the format was something new to Trump. Being on a split screen, going one on one with a different type of adversary – he wasn’t prepared. That’s his problems. Some people might buy into a conspiracy theory, I suppose, and unfortunately, as I pointed out a while back, Hillary’s pneumonia already confirmed one conspiracy theory, and before that the DNC leaks seemed to partially confirm another, so people won’t entirely dismiss the possibility of a ‘rigged’ debate. But I think the problem is, people saw what they saw and heard what they heard. There’s no un-seeing it, no un-hearing it.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/12 "2016-09-30T19:24:47Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I watched that debate, and Trump should be pissed. That mike made him say all kinds of stupid shit.

Of course it did. The mike is just another part of the LSM.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/13 "2016-09-30T19:26:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> is somewhat ambiguous. Does it mean that there were problems with the sound level in the debate hall, but not necessarily in the audio feed to cable TV? The hall was filled proportionally, half Republicans, presumably Trump supporters. And nobody said anything?

My reading is that the problems with the sound level affected Trump’s reception poorly, inasmuch as people were able to hear what he was saying.

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/14 "2016-09-30T19:39:17Z")

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According to the article cited in the OP some of the blame lies with Trump touching the microphone, which the candidates were instructed not to do.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/15 "2016-09-30T19:47:34Z")

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“A bad workman always blames his tools.”

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/16 "2016-09-30T19:53:25Z")

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It would make total sense if he was asked “why did you not do your best in the debate?” and he said “there were problems with the mic and monitor and the sound levels threw me off my game” or something like that. But he started blaming the mic when he was asked about his sniffles.

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> In the same interview, he also denied having sniffles, instead commenting that “the mic was very bad” and “maybe it was good enough to hear breathing. But no sniffles. No cold.”

The mic was both good enough to hear breathing, which made it sound like he had sniffles, but also was very bad. Also of course he hasn’t admitted that he did poorly at the debate, he thinks he did great.

> [@skdo23](#):
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> According to the article cited in the OP some of the blame lies with Trump touching the microphone, which the candidates were instructed not to do.

That makes total sense, of course he messed things up since he can’t listen to instructions.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/17 "2016-09-30T20:00:37Z")

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I’d love to see Hillary open the next debate by saying “I’m glad to be here, my mic is working well but even if it wasn’t I’d still mop the floor with Cheetoface over there.”

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/18 "2016-09-30T20:02:38Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> The mic was both good enough to hear breathing, which made it sound like he had sniffles, but also was very bad. Also of course he hasn’t admitted that he did poorly at the debate, he thinks he did great.

Plus the Commission’s statement seems to indicate that the audio problem only affected the sound level in the debate hall, whereas the sniffling was heard over the airwaves. I also wonder if the microphone’s calibration referred to in the article was thrown off by changes in tone, volume, etc. when he lost his composure and started ranting.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/19 "2016-09-30T20:12:34Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I’d love to see Hillary open the next debate by saying “I’m glad to be here, my mic is working well but even if it wasn’t I’d still mop the floor with Cheetoface over there.”

Nope. She should solicitous and concerned.

“My mike seems to be OK, how’s yours, Donald? Want to double check, make sure everything is up to par? If we are pressed for time, you can take some of mine, I’m not going to need it all.”

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**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/commission-admits-issues-with-trump-mic/767299/20 "2016-09-30T20:24:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Nope. She should solicitous and concerned.
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> “My mike seems to be OK, how’s yours, Donald? Want to double check, make sure everything is up to par? If we are pressed for time, you can take some of mine, I’m not going to need it all.”

Before the next debate, she should offer to switch microphones with him. Preferably with at least one Princess Bride quote.

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