# Common for Europeans to never travel from their country to other European countries?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 26, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233 "2023-04-26T22:15:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blindmellowjelly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindmellowjelly/32/13920_2.png) [@Blindmellowjelly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blindmellowjelly)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233/41 "2023-05-07T23:54:23Z")

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I think that is the whole premise of Tracy Chapman’s Classic song, “Fast Car”.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233/42 "2023-05-08T00:01:19Z")

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Yes, a lot of the people being suprised that there are people that don’t travel widely for pleasure smacks of this article:

> **[Someone Asked “What Was The Most ‘Out Of Touch With Reality’ Thing A Rich...](https://www.boredpanda.com/out-of-touch-rich-people-comments/)**
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> Rich people are used to a certain lifestyle, which makes some things difficult to comprehend. How someone can’t buy a second car just because the AC is broken, for example.

There are millions of people that ask not “Should I go to the mountains or the beach for vacation?” but “Should I pay for my rent or my medicine this month?”.

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**Author:** ![Blindmellowjelly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindmellowjelly/32/13920_2.png) [@Blindmellowjelly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blindmellowjelly)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233/43 "2023-05-08T00:54:48Z")

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0 KTo be totally honest, my idea of “travel” has constricted gradually, and considerably. And frankly it is a relief, this hermit’s retraction over the last 5 years from a panoply of agoraphobia. As I am a disabled person. Who has a budget of 20$ a month for gas. I am also very scared and anxiety ridden, as i have a 15 year old car and few friends or family and cannot afford AAA. It’s my lifeline living so rurally.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233/44 "2023-05-08T01:09:34Z")

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…I’m not even sure why we are conflating inter-state with inter-country travel. They really aren’t the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Blindmellowjelly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindmellowjelly/32/13920_2.png) [@Blindmellowjelly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blindmellowjelly)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233/45 "2023-05-08T02:17:25Z")

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> [@Blindmellowjelly](#):
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> It’s (my car) is my lifeline.

This is something rhat perches on my shoulder, everyday, when will I lose my last shred of independence living in B.F.E. i need to acess the goods and "spice. My life is living on mechanical interdependence.

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233/46 "2023-05-08T10:00:02Z")

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> **[British teacher finds long-lost relative: 9,000-year-old man](https://www.southcoasttoday.com/story/news/nation-world/1997/03/09/british-teacher-finds-long-lost/50628721007/)**
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> LONDON -- Using DNA from a tooth, scientist have established a blood tie between a 9,000-year-old skeleton known as "Cheddar Man" and an English schoolteacher who lives just a half mile from the cave…

9000 years and his descendants had made it half a mile down the road.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233/47 "2023-05-08T14:15:17Z")

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Statistically, though, if a person from 9000 years ago has living descendants, wouldn’t they likely include everyone in the country? It’s not like the one local guy who matched is the only descendant.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/common-for-europeans-to-never-travel-from-their-country-to-other-european-countries/983233/48 "2023-05-08T16:55:53Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Statistically, though, if a person from 9000 years ago has living descendants, wouldn’t they likely include everyone in the country?

Probably a very large percentage of them, at least.

> **[Identical ancestors point](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point)**
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> In genetic genealogy, the identical ancestors point (IAP), or all common ancestors (ACA) point, or genetic isopoint, is the most recent point in a given population's past such that each individual alive at that point either has no living descendants, or is the ancestor of every individual alive in the present. This point lies further in the past than the population's most recent common ancestor (MRCA).
> A set of full siblings has an IAP one generation back: their parents. Similarly, double first ...

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