Background checks really aren’t good enough. How would you know who failed to conduct a background check unless you were able to recreate chain of title to the gun. That’s why you need registration 9and licensing makes the registration process much much easier)
When the ambulance is 10 minutes away it might be good to have someone around that knows enough to apply pressure to the bleeding wound so that they can survive until the ambulance gets there. First Aid can save lives, just like an armed citizenry (granted, you are much more likely to need first aid skills than a firearm so carrying a firearm should probably be lower on the list of priorities than knowing first aid but there is definitely a place for an armed civilian population, see LA riots)
Registration and licensing is unnecessary, and is/should be unconstitutional. The government has no business or right to know what I own, and especially what firearms I own. I know many here will poo-poo the idea that registration leads to confiscation, but that is exactly what happened in the UK and Australia and Germany. And it is what many in the US want. No thanks.
My state is not supposed to have a gun registry, but the government has a full record of purchases and transfers through FFL dealers, which covers all legal handgun transfers and many long gun sales. So, they may say a list isn’t a registry, but it sure is a huge head-start to one.
Analogy would work if you were comparing people who had guns to people who had first aid kits, both usually having next to no professional training using either. A person who has proper first aid training is taught when and how to use it, and to contact the proper authorities immediately. Is any of this required of those that buy a gun?
Just so you know, you guys sound like you are about 5 years old when you non-ironically talk about “bad guys.”
Your sentences are contradictory. There are people who buy guns and first aid kits who are trained, and there are those who are not. There are those who go on to get training, and those who do not.
There are people who buy chain saws who are skilled, and there are people who are not. Same goes for knives, cars, etc. I’m not getting any point you are trying to make.
Do you like miscreants, thugs or ne’er-do-wells better?
None of which applies if I report a man with a gun. Good luck proving intent to harass simply by doing what police departments recommend: see something, say something. And I am not reporting a crime, so that is irrelevant. It is up to the police to decide if resources are warranted, and to determine if the gun is being carried legally, or if it poses a threat to the public. Nope, I am confident I am doing the right thing and have no legal exposure whatsoever.
Have you actually done this? Are you calling 911 each time? Are you saying that a person with a gun is threatening people or just that you saw a man carrying a gun secured in a holster? Or do you forget to mention the holster part? If you say someone is threatening people when they are not, that surely qualifies as a false report.
I would think a pattern of repeated 911 abuse could indeed become a legal problem.
If you are indeed actually calling 911 to report something that is not a crime in your state, then you are wasting dispatch and police resources.
I’m guessing ‘criminals’ might work. And you kind of make the point for him with your reply.
While those do reflect a more developmentally advanced lexicon and would less readily betray a limited cognitive level of functioning, they would not address the fundamental problem: a categorical - in fact dichotomous - view of reality. This really is a cartoonish view of the world, but it pervades conservative thought on a whole lot of subjects.
Unlike liberals who think everyone with a gun is a dangerous criminal about to shoot up the place. That would be a nuanced view of the world?
I expect you won’t have the opportunity to do this often enough to make a nuisance of yourself. I live in a state where open carry requires no permit. Even so, I can easily count the number of open carriers I have seen here in my entire 53 years: 2. You enjoy yourself, though. In fact, I think you should report here every time you see an open carrier whether you call the cops or not. It will prove illustrative on several levels.
Using a cartoonish description of liberals doesn’t exactly help your case, y’know.
Exactly. Sheesh, please stop doing all the heavy lifting by yourself, orwell. I do like to participate too.
Isn’t that exactly what Fear Itself suggests when he says he calls the police every time he sees someone with a gun? Or doesn’t he actually think they are criminals, but still chooses to call 911?
BTW, I didn’t say “all liberals”. There are some who have moderate views on gun rights.
deterrence.
What are “moderate views on gun rights”, according to you?
Actually, I skew liberal politically on most everything except gun rights. Pro-gun liberals are not particularly rare and neither are anti-gun conservatives.
Oh, we definitely need a better one of these ----> :dubious: