# Community 5.10 "Advanced Advanced Dungeons & Dragons" 3/20/14

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 21, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196 "2014-03-21T01:03:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/1 "2014-03-21T01:03:19Z")

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[5.01/5.02 “Repilot”/“Introduction to teaching”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=711877)  
[5.03 Basic Intergluteal Numismatics](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17000800)  
[5.04 Cooperative Polygraphy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17018930)  
[5.05 Geothermal Escapism](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=713937)  
[5.06 Analysis of Cork-based marketing](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=714577)  
[5.07 Bondage and Beta Male Sexuality](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=717040)  
[5.08 App Development and Condiments](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=717634)  
[5.09 VCR Maintenance and Educational Publishing](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17192448)

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**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/2 "2014-03-21T01:13:52Z")

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I’m just watching it now. I wasn’t sure at the beginning, because I really liked the first D&D episode, but it’s really growing on me.

I’m not sure how much I like Pierce’s replacement, though. I hope he ends up growing on me, too.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/3 "2014-03-21T02:36:55Z")

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Good, but not great episode. I loved Hickey interrogating the two hobgoblins and Jim Rash going all out to reconcile with his father, Jeff.

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**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/4 "2014-03-21T04:12:16Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Good, but not great episode. I loved Hickey interrogating the two hobgoblins and Jim Rash going all out to reconcile with his father, Jeff.

Yes, watching Jim Rash try to hug his son was one of the funniest parts. I’m starting to think that he is my favorite character on the show.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/5 "2014-03-21T08:14:54Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> I loved Hickey interrogating the two hobgoblins

I rewatched that scene to study Annie’s reactions. God, she’s hot.

They should kill off Shirley in more episodes.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/6 "2014-03-21T12:08:09Z")

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The ending felt really rushed but I liked it. It was funny plus I appreciated that they really played D&D. Abed’s faced as the Hobgoblins were priceless as was Annie pantomiming Hector the Well Endowed.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/7 "2014-03-21T12:42:23Z")

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> [@Pai325](#):
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> Yes, watching Jim Rash try to hug his son was one of the funniest parts. I’m starting to think that he is my favorite character on the show.

Big Dean Pelton fan here. His Payday-bar rap last week was hilarious, and he just kept bringing it here. Loved his little lean into the shot after “Something that rhymes with ‘not there.’” “Times Square?”

I found this episode tremendously funny. Or should I say, "Faaa … bulous"ly funny. (Just doing things in the background).

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/8 "2014-03-21T15:11:03Z")

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I almost forgot about that Neil in the background. What a great sight gag!

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/9 "2014-03-21T15:44:08Z")

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Something interesting I noticed:

In the first D&D episode, all the books, etc… looked to be AD&D 1st Edition.

In this episode, it all looked to be AD&D 2nd Edition.

On the off-chance there’s a third D&D episode, it’ll be interesting to see if they move to 3rd/3.5 Edition books.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/10 "2014-03-21T16:15:40Z")

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Having never played Dungeons and Dragons myself, I’m curious is this a good representation of how the game is played? Oh the things I could learn from this show…

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**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/11 "2014-03-21T16:22:46Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> Having never played Dungeons and Dragons myself, I’m curious is this a good representation of how the game is played? Oh the things I could learn from this show…

Yep. The sound effects you hear are entirely in your head. The first D&D episode is a fantastic representation on how a game is played. This one was good, but there were too many quick cuts in it.

But yes. Its basically people sitting around, telling a story that they create themselves, and using dice to determine what happens and what fails.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/12 "2014-03-21T16:50:27Z")

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The only difference is that in most play groups (but not all) the players roll their own dice.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/13 "2014-03-21T17:13:30Z")

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I think the biggest difference is merely in how accommodating Abed is to people going “outside the box” of a typical D&D game, and being able to instantly know how to “resolve” their suggestion. He’ll just instantly roll some dice and look at the result. In a typical D&D game, IME, there’s lots of back and forth between he DM and the player when they want to do something outside the box, what skill to use, how hard it should be, etc…THEN a die roll or two, or five…etc…), if one is determined to be needed at all.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/14 "2014-03-21T17:14:35Z")

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“Lightning Bolt!”  
“Lightning Bolt!”  
“Lightning Bolt!”

😃

Shirley’s use of \*Entangle \* was actually pretty smart.  
The interrogation was good.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/15 "2014-03-21T18:13:00Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> I think the biggest difference is merely in how accommodating Abed is to people going “outside the box” of a typical D&D game, and being able to instantly know how to “resolve” their suggestion. He’ll just instantly roll some dice and look at the result. In a typical D&D game, IME, there’s lots of back and forth between he DM and the player when they want to do something outside the box, what skill to use, how hard it should be, etc…THEN a die roll or two, or five…etc…), if one is determined to be needed at all.

Wait. You mean your gamers DON’T screw up your planned encounter schedules?

:eek:

😃

(I attack the Gazebo!)

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/16 "2014-03-22T03:20:18Z")

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Anyone else wonder what the original character distributions were, before they were scrambled?

We know they started as:  
Joseph Gordon Diehard = Hank Hickey  
Sir Riggs Diehard = Buzz Hickey  
rest = ?

After the shuffle, we got:  
Tristram Steelheart the Cleric = Hank  
Tiny Nuggins the Thief = Buzz  
Fibrosis the Ranger = Britta  
Crouton the Druid = Shirley  
Hector the Well Endowed = Annie  
Dingleberry the Troll = Chang  
Joseph Gordon Diehard = Dean Pelton  
Sir Riggs Diehard = Jeff

I would guess that Jeff was Hector. Britta was Dingleberry. Shirley was Tristram. Chang was Tiny Nuggins. Dean was Fibrosis. That leaves Annie to be Crouton.

What say you?

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/17 "2014-03-22T03:43:02Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> The ending felt really rushed but I liked it. It was funny plus I appreciated that they really played D&D.

I thought this episode felt more like a real D&D game (in my experience), but it definitely felt like a rehash. Sort of like a mash-up between the first D&D episode and the episode where Pierce and his half-brother played a video game to win their father’s acceptance. And I agree it felt kind of rushed.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/18 "2014-03-22T03:55:54Z")

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They made a wise decision not to go “bigger” with this one.

It felt like a rehash, because it was one. But unlike the paintball sequels, which tried to go big and ultimately felt pointless, this one intentionally went smaller than the original. As a result, I think it was a fantastic episode that stands on its own. It was just a very enjoyable, relaxing time with great characters and low stakes. Despite being a rehash, it provided something quite different than the first one (which, let’s face it, was never going to be surpassed anyway).

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2014, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/19 "2014-03-22T07:08:44Z")

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There’s a long interview with [Dan Harmon](http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/mega-community-interview-with-dan-harmon-part-1) on Hitfix where it’s made clear this episode didn’t have enough time allocated to it to make it work, and it was a “scripts written on the day before the shoot” situation.

[Part 2 of the interview](http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/mega-community-interview-with-dan-harmon-part-2).  
Part 3 will be released on Monday.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-5-10-advanced-advanced-dungeons-dragons-3-20-14/684196/20 "2014-03-24T14:48:56Z")

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I laughed out loud when Abed pulled out the giant binder, putting the smug Son of Hickey in his place.

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