# "Community" (new NBC show) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596 "2009-09-18T15:26:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/221 "2009-11-14T01:36:25Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I don’t think spoilers are needed after the episode airs. It’s not like this is a serial drama or anything. > > I think Jeff’s reactions are very realistic for a man in his mid thirties who is suddenly dealing with an attractive young woman. Hence the awkwardness and the pats on the head. Besides, while Annie may find Jeff attractive, she’s still holding a candle for Troy. I think that we’ve seen plenty of examples of how pathetic Jeff feels right now. I think his speech to his teacher a few weeks ago (“And I’m really lonely and you smell really good…”) was sincere, and then last week, he lost his apartment and was pretty much ready to give up on his life completely. Now he’s got a really beautiful girl who treats him like he’s really _special_. Britta behaves like she can barely stand him, and he’s not really _that_ important to the other characters, but Annie has demonstrated that she believes she needs him. Who else needs him or even really wants him around? Nobody. Who else is showing any genuine interest in him? Nobody. It would be stranger if he wasn’t attracted to her. Now I don’t think he’ll act on that attraction, nor do I think he should. But I like the fact that he’s having a fairly realistic response to the way a beautiful young woman is treating him. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/222 "2009-11-14T02:35:47Z")
And he originally realizes it isn’t a good idea, which is why he goes to the “pat on the head”. So I don’t think it will be acted upon, just that Annie REALLY wanted to win the competition. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/223 "2009-11-14T03:19:02Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > I loved the end credit sequence, where they were filming a version of an earlier end credit sequence. What would have been great is if for the episode where they first did it they had shown the actors doing it instead with absolutely no explanation (then have the real Abed/Troy version this time). To go with the whole Abed knowing the future thing. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/224 "2009-11-15T02:02:20Z")
> [@Speak\_to\_me\_Maddie](#): > > I honestly wouldn’t have a problem with it airing for only four years. Part of the problem with American TV is the tendency to run shows into the ground to try get every last cent from it. I like the tendency of British shows to wrap things up when the central concept has run its course. Stories aren’t meant to go on forever. Wait until you find out that they are already developing a spin-off series that will feature Starburns… ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/225 "2009-11-15T16:36:29Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > This is without a doubt my new favorite show. I like every single character. What she said. This show is great, fun and lovable. You Americans are doing things so right with television these days. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/226 "2009-11-16T00:38:57Z")
> [@Leiko](#): > > As a fan of “The Guild,” the combination of Vork on Glee and Zaboo on Community filled me with joy. Me too! And there’s this weird six degrees of separation thing with Iqbal Theba appearing in both. Now we just need Felicia Day to guest on _Heroes_, and Theba to show up on _V_. Or something. I loved that the over-blushed judge called Jeff on his BS. Honestly, if he was a successful lawyer (even a scuzzy one) he never would have gone there, but it was funny to watch, as well as him dropping the superstar on his smug face. I have always thought Annie was drop-dead gorgeous, even with her silly barrette. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/227 "2009-11-16T04:41:49Z")
One thing I really have to give props to this episode for is the red herring. Since I recognized the actor playing Simmons (the wheelchair bound debate champion) from other shows he’s been on I knew he wasn’t really in a wheelchair and I was sure at some point he was going to either be found out (i.e. using the chair for sympathy judge points) or, when they said “It would take a miracle”, that he’d fake a miracle. Instead they let him fall to the ground because Jeff was horny- nice way to fake and then avoid an easy to see plot twist. Who is it that Abed reminds me of so much? Other than RAINMAN of course; his expressions, build, glare… there’s some actor or character that he’s almost a ringer for, but I can’t place it. In any the actor’s got some serious comic talent. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/228 "2009-11-16T06:06:01Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Who is it that Abed reminds me of so much? Other than RAINMAN of course; his expressions, build, glare… there’s some actor or character that he’s almost a ringer for, but I can’t place it. Batman? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/229 "2009-11-16T06:33:20Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Batman? Only when he talks. ---
**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/230 "2009-11-16T10:36:56Z")
I have to admit that Abed takes me out of the experience a bit, at least his supposed nationality; he’s meant to be a middle-easterner, but he looks \*so \*Indian, as did his father in that one episode. Love the character though. Also, I think the slapstick was funny because it was Chevy Chase who did it. He made it funny. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/231 "2009-11-16T14:13:45Z")
Just a note: This thread is approaching 7 pages when the forum will start displaying “… Last Page”. Maybe for the next episode we should start a new thread. If “30 Rock” gets a new thread/episode, this show also deserves one. ---
**Author:** ![Thrash\_the\_Almighty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@Thrash\_the\_Almighty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thrash_the_Almighty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/232 "2009-11-16T14:38:24Z")
> [@Speak\_to\_me\_Maddie](#): > > I agree. I was like, “Dude, she’s only 18, and just out of high school. That’s kinda creepy.” Funny enough, this didn’t even occur to me until I read this post. I honestly don’t see it as creepy. She’s legal and he is exceptionally immature. It wouldn’t be cool if he intentionally played her, but I don’t see it playing out that way. I suspect either nothing will come of it, or if it does it will be a genuine love interest on both parts. I have known plenty of college freshmen (including myself) who had wonderful relationships with people much older. It might actually make a nice twist if the writers do it well. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/233 "2009-11-16T18:11:19Z")
> [@cactus\_waltz](#): > > I have to admit that Abed takes me out of the experience a bit, at least his supposed nationality; he’s meant to be a middle-easterner, but he looks \*so \*Indian, as did his father in that one episode. Love the character though. Yes, in case anyone doesn’t know, the actor who plays Abed is actually Indian (or, rather, half-Indian, half-Polish), and the one who plays his father is actually Pakistani. But, in Hollywood, brown is brown. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/234 "2009-11-16T18:26:40Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Just a note: This thread is approaching 7 pages when the forum will start displaying “… Last Page”. Why, would “Last Page” be some sort of deterrent? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/235 "2009-11-16T18:30:19Z")
> [@Indistinguishable](#): > > Yes, in case anyone doesn’t know, the actor who plays Abed is actually Indian (or, rather, half-Indian, half-Polish), and the one who plays his father is actually Pakistani. But, in Hollywood, brown is brown. Does it matter, if he plays the part well? ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/236 "2009-11-16T20:14:40Z")
> [@Thrash\_the\_Almighty](#): > > Funny enough, this didn’t even occur to me until I read this post. I honestly don’t see it as creepy. She’s legal and he is exceptionally immature. It wouldn’t be cool if he intentionally played her, but I don’t see it playing out that way. I suspect either nothing will come of it, or if it does it will be a genuine love interest on both parts. I have known plenty of college freshmen (including myself) who had wonderful relationships with people much older. It might actually make a nice twist if the writers do it well. I was also a college freshmen who dated someone older (8 years older in my case, I don’t know if you’d call that “much older”) and that’s one of the reasons I found it off-putting. But yes, if the writers do it well, acknowledging Jeff’s influence and authority among the group and how it affects Annie’s perception of him romantically and sexually, then it would be an interesting relationship to explore. ---
**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/237 "2009-11-16T20:21:30Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Does it matter, if he plays the part well? It doesn’t matter too much, but I find it a bit jarring. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/238 "2009-11-16T21:27:58Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Does it matter, if he plays the part well? It’s not, like, _offensive_ or anything; it’s just a little incongruous, akin to how the Rousseau on Lost is clearly East European rather than French. No big deal, but a little weird. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/239 "2009-11-24T02:08:20Z")
Bumping it for Environmental Science, the latest episode; I was cracking up during the final climactic sequence, cutting between all the different victories. Really well done! ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/240 "2009-11-24T03:08:52Z")
I also loved that ending. My one beef with the show is I hate the “Pierce claims to be good at something and helps someone” storyline in nearly every single episode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596.md?page=13)