# "Community" (new NBC show) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596 "2009-09-18T15:26:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/261 "2009-12-11T16:25:19Z")
> [@HelloNinja](#): > > Great episode last night, maybe my favorite of the season. Loved seeing Anthony Michael Hall as the “must be gay” bully. He was the dorky guy on The Breakfast Club? I never would have recognized him. He seemed somewhat tall in The Breakfast Club but short compared to McHale. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/262 "2009-12-11T16:55:50Z")
I didn’t realize that was Anthony Michael hall either. That fight at the end was too funny. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/263 "2009-12-11T17:14:17Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > He was the dorky guy on The Breakfast Club? I never would have recognized him. He seemed somewhat tall in The Breakfast Club but short compared to McHale. Not only that, but he played Chevy Chase’s son in the first _Vacation_ movie. As meta as this show can be, I’m surpised they didn’t find a way to work in a Griswold allusion. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/264 "2009-12-11T17:51:58Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I didn’t realize that was Anthony Michael hall either. That fight at the end was too funny. Reminded me of a fight on Married With Children or Malcolm in the Middle! ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/265 "2009-12-11T19:39:08Z")
I didn’t really get the whole running “Say the whole word” thing. Yeah, “I didn’t know you were Jewish” might be a little more conventional than “I didn’t know you were a Jew”, or whatever the line was, but A) the latter doesn’t seem _wrong_ to me, just a little stilted, and B) Responding “Say the whole word!” kept coming across to me as a demand that one should say “I didn’t know you were a Jewish” Did I misapprehend the idea here? Am I the only one this bit didn’t work for? ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/266 "2009-12-11T20:00:43Z")
well, “a jew” would be akin to calling someone “a black” instead of just… jewish or black. it also emphasizes the ethnicity rather than the religion though the two are pretty tightly interwoven. i didn’t think it was distracting enough to raise a huge fuss about though, no more than shirley adding a superfluous “b” into the bracelet just so the writers can work in a blowjob/billy joel joke. ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/267 "2009-12-11T20:10:09Z")
Maybe Annie is going retro and wanted them to say “Jewess.” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/268 "2009-12-11T20:14:16Z")
Probably my favorite episode so far. Shirley may seem over the top to some, but Og knows how many “truly-well-meaning and genuinely-sweet completely intolerant Christians” I’ve met just like her. Great singing voice. Favorite lines: “Agnostic- that’s just atheism for the lazy!” “Muslim dish… well I’m guessing as a woman I can’t eat it and that’s a shame.” “Tell it to the birthday cake you never had.” ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/269 "2009-12-11T20:42:22Z")
My wife, who has never watched the show, was in stitches whens he heard the PC version of “Silent Night.” ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/270 "2009-12-11T20:53:14Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > My wife, who has never watched the show, was in stitches whens he heard the PC version of “Silent Night.” You’re married to a dude? That’s like so gay, man. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/271 "2009-12-11T20:56:43Z")
> [@Indistinguishable](#): > > I didn’t really get the whole running “Say the whole word” thing. Yeah, “I didn’t know you were Jewish” might be a little more conventional than “I didn’t know you were a Jew”, or whatever the line was, but > > A) the latter doesn’t seem _wrong_ to me, just a little stilted, and > B) Responding “Say the whole word!” kept coming across to me as a demand that one should say “I didn’t know you were a Jewish” > > Did I misapprehend the idea here? Am I the only one this bit didn’t work for? The first time, between Annie and Shirley, I thought it worked. The way Shirley said it definitely had that “unintentional bigot” vibe to it. “Oh, a _Jew_, how _unique_…” The second time (with Pierce?) I remembered thinking it sounded forced, but it was a callback joke so it still worked okay. ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/272 "2009-12-11T22:06:25Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > He was the dorky guy on The Breakfast Club? I never would have recognized him. He seemed somewhat tall in The Breakfast Club but short compared to McHale. Joel McHale is \*very \*tall (I think he’s like 6’9). Most guys would look short next to him. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/273 "2009-12-11T22:31:57Z")
> [@Skara\_Brae](#): > > Joel McHale is \*very \*tall (I think he’s like 6’9). Most guys would look short next to him. [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0570364/bio) lists him at 6’4, which is still 4 inches taller than I thought he was. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/274 "2009-12-11T22:33:42Z")
Probably the best Christmas show of the entire Christmas season. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/275 "2009-12-11T22:56:26Z")
I have worked with dozens of Shirleys. It wasn’t over the top at all! I feel like Chevy Chase’s character is too overdone but I imagine there are plenty who know guys like him. This was not my favorite episode, but it will probably be the best holiday show of the season. There wasn’t any part I didn’t care for, and I’m really warming up to the Spanish teacher. Is Community very well advertised because every time I tell someone about it they’ve never even heard of the show. ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/276 "2009-12-11T23:07:33Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0570364/bio) lists him at 6’4, which is still 4 inches taller than I thought he was. Really? I thought I read somewhere that he is taller… I know he played college football, so I guess that is still unusually tall for a football player.. He always towers over everyone on _The Soup_. Thanks for the info! ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/277 "2009-12-12T00:03:50Z")
I loved; “Agnosticism’s the poor man’s Atheism.” I hear the same from my brother, even though we both are on the same exact same page, chapter and verse on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/278 "2009-12-12T00:07:23Z")
I’m liking Troy more and more with each episode. “You’re crazy. I bet you believe in blood transfusions too.” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/279 "2009-12-12T00:11:38Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > I loved; > “Agnosticism’s the poor man’s Atheism.” > > I hear the same from my brother, even though we both are on the same exact same page, chapter and verse on the subject. Same here with a couple a friends. I usually tell them that whether I’m atheist or agnostic (I’ve referred to myself as both but usually go with the latter) depends on definitions, degrees, room temperature, who I’m with and what I had for lunch; I suppose _agnostic_ seems to me, like it probably does to the fictional Jeff, the more _diplomatic_ term. They’ve never mentioned Jeff’s family or childhood. (True they haven’t mentioned much about anybody’s, but we know that Shirley’s a recently divorced mom, Pierce has been divorced 7 times, and Abed’s parents are separated and Iranian; Señor Chang is actually the one we know most about family wise.) I’m guessing that they’re planning a big 'un with that. Things we can deduce are that he’s not from wealth (if he were he wouldn’t be having his things repossessed and probably would have gone to ‘real college’ in the first place), he’s obviously not close to them (if he were he’d live with one of them probably or at least refer to them) and his extremely malleable ethics indicate surviving by hook, crook, pretty face and lots of lying when necessary, so I’m guessing he’s probably working class latch key kid with dysfunctional parents. I still say it’s going to be a love interest for Pierce when his mom shows up though (and I still opt for one of Chevy’s former co-stars). ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596/280 "2009-12-12T00:21:00Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > I liked how Britta kept making fighting a gay thing. And she was the one fighting with the girl from the other crew. > [@Contrapuntal](#): > > You’re married to a dude? That’s like so gay, man. They fight all the time, you know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-new-nbc-show/510596.md?page=15)