# Community - Virtual Systems Analysis - 4/19 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 20, 2012, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403 "2012-04-20T12:57:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/1 "2012-04-20T12:57:16Z")
Wow, this show rocks. I’m re-watching this episode on Hulu! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/2 "2012-04-20T13:15:33Z")
I was a little nervous that when Abed (as Jeff) got up, he was really Evil Abed. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/3 "2012-04-20T14:31:04Z")
I expected this episode to be more divisive because I could see it being accused of being self indulgent but I loved it and it seems mostly everyone else did too. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/4 "2012-04-20T14:33:07Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I expected this episode to be more divisive because I could see it being accused of being self indulgent but I loved it and it seems mostly everyone else did too. Nope, not me: “self-indulgent.” ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/5 "2012-04-20T15:02:51Z")
I thought the premise was kind of weak, but it had a few laughs. (Note: In general, I’m not crazy about comedies that focus on character or plot development at the expense of humour.) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/6 "2012-04-20T15:04:59Z")
Not very funny but ambitious and clever. So will Abed have empathy now? ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/7 "2012-04-20T17:01:49Z")
That was probably the least accessible episode of a TV show I’ve ever seen and that counts the television work of David Lynch. The show went too far up its own ass, and worse there weren’t enough laughs there to justify it. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/8 "2012-04-20T17:16:27Z")
I enjoyed it. At this point, ratings can’t going to soar no matter what they do. And whenever they go too accessible everyone complains that the episode is too generic. So I say, screw it and just make a show for the most die-hard fans out there. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/9 "2012-04-20T18:07:18Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > That was probably the least accessible episode of a TV show I’ve ever seen and that counts the television work of David Lynch. The show went too far up its own ass, and worse there weren’t enough laughs there to justify it. I liked it, but you’re right. If that was someone’s first exposure to the show, they’d never watch it again. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/10 "2012-04-20T18:58:22Z")
Yea, I didn’t like it either. It seemed to be trying too hard. And the jokes were few and far between. I liked when they were still students at a Community College, and every couple episodes weird stuff would happen to them. Now they’ve pretty much dropped the Community College premise (what was the last time we actually saw them in a classroom?) and the weird has become the point of the show. The Dean’s good news/bad news costume was pretty funny though. And I liked that he acknowledged how bizarre it was. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/11 "2012-04-20T19:12:34Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > That was probably the least accessible episode of a TV show I’ve ever seen and that counts the television work of David Lynch. The show went too far up its own ass, and worse there weren’t enough laughs there to justify it. There comes a point when you just have to follow your muse and screw the first-time viewer. This was one of those times. You can’t make Art and worry about a newb every second. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/12 "2012-04-20T20:22:57Z")
It was an OK episode. I too wondered about evil Abed. Since they showed him appearing to our Abed a week or two ago I hope it wasn’t just a tease and that the writers actually have something planned out. ---
**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/13 "2012-04-20T21:35:20Z")
I didn’t like it primarily because now Abed isn’t just some kooky, Aspergersy guy who likes pop culture references – he’s genuinely insane. A room set aside for imaginary playtime is juvenile and weird, but a room set aside for imaginary playtime _that you think is powered by cardboard boxes and paper towel rolls_ is bonafide loony. And, sadly, Troy’s got to also be somewhere past “weird” on the sanity scale, too, because he’s cheerfully along for the ride. It’s sad, I think. And it wasn’t that funny. Well-written, I noticed, but laughs were few and far between. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/14 "2012-04-20T22:11:22Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I liked it, but you’re right. If that was someone’s first exposure to the show, they’d never watch it again. How many people are really coming in for the first time to a late episode in the third season? I would at least hope if they did they would go, “None of this makes sense because I don’t know who these characters are, maybe I’ll go back and figure it out.” ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/15 "2012-04-20T22:21:24Z")
I really liked the episode. I don’t really share the same complaints as the rest of you because A) I’ve seen every episode, so accessibility isn’t an issue, B) I’m used to Community doing unusual episodes, and C) Come to think of it, I generally like unusual episodes of shows. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/16 "2012-04-20T23:05:44Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > How many people are really coming in for the first time to a late episode in the third season? I would at least hope if they did they would go, “None of this makes sense because I don’t know who these characters are, maybe I’ll go back and figure it out.” I heard good things about Breaking Bad for years, so what the hell, I’ll tune in and see I’d it’s worth getting into. I watched the one with the fly. Easily the worst episode of the series, and it put me off watching any more for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/17 "2012-04-20T23:12:32Z")
I like the episode (probably a bit more than last week’s). Annie’s talk about science fiction is one of the best descriptions of the genre I’ve ever seen. “There more where that didn’t come from.” ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/18 "2012-04-20T23:29:36Z")
The entire episode was worth it for the effects of truth serum on Troy. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/19 "2012-04-20T23:43:16Z")
Best episode since the break. Ridiculous premise, yes. Inspector Spacetime isn’t _that_ funny, true. I don’t know how this episode worked so well (other than the Troy freakout which always works), but it did. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403/20 "2012-04-21T00:03:43Z")
> [@quixotic78](#): > > I didn’t like it primarily because now Abed isn’t just some kooky, Aspergersy guy who likes pop culture references – he’s genuinely insane. Well, this _is_ the same guy who thought life turned into claymation in the xmas episode. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/community-virtual-systems-analysis-4-19/619403.md?page=2)