# Companies that deserve to go bankrupt

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 29, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580 "2003-07-29T02:45:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TeaRoses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@TeaRoses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaRoses)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/41 "2003-07-31T04:26:53Z")

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SBC, my local phone company. They call me about three times a week to ask me if I want to change to them for long distance. How many people are they freaking paying to do that all day?

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**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/42 "2003-07-31T04:41:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by soulmurk \*  
> \*\*The irony of whining about whiners is just delicious.
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> Honestly I hadn’t noticed anyone griping about a crummy job and wishing ill upon a company for it. Rather, everyone was pointing out the evils of their respective companies and wishing that they’d run themselves into the ground sooner rather than later.
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> Perhaps if less people followed your particular belief that those with unglorious jobs deserve to be treated badly, there’d be less people complaining about being treated badly by customers. Your disdain and lack of sympathy certainly doesn’t help. Those that do fulfill the “menial” jobs in society do have a right to complain because the companies they work for tend to treat them as expendable fodder with no rights.
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> It’s common practice for some of these places to work their employees a half an hour a week less than full time so they don’t have to pay out benefits and to alter work schedules at their whim, preventing employees from planning things outside of their job, like say for example, college classes.
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> A lack of education or a necessity to hold down a crummy job does not give a company license to treat their employees as less than human and until you’ve worn someone’s shoes, you have no right to get so disgusted by them when they vent a little. \*\*

I have just as much right to bitch about them as you do to bitch about my statement. First, I never stated they deserve to be treated like shit, but instead stated it should be expected. What do you expect out of a career that requires no education? Now if you’re quite done with putting words into my mouth, I’ll be on my way.

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**Author:** ![Creative\_Munster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Creative\_Munster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Creative_Munster)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/43 "2003-07-31T04:49:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duderdude2 \*  
> \*\*I can’t believe the people posting here who want the corporations they worked for to die because of the crappy jobs they held. Face it, if you’re working at McDonalds or baby sitting kids, you’re going to be treated like shit (and that’s to be expected). If you have a poor education, you’re going to end up with a crap job like telemarketing. If you don’t like it, stop your bitching and quit. Out society is so full of whiners; it’s disgusting. \*\*

Listen, Dipwad, not everyone who has a shitty job is uneducated or a scumbag. Life can be a cruel unforgiving bitch. My hope for you is that you fall on hard times and are forced to take a job “beneath” you. Then perhaps you will learn the sympathy you so desperately lack.

In conclusion, go fuck yourself, you clueless bastard.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/44 "2003-07-31T04:56:31Z")

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> Quark, Inc. They have a stranglehold that is finally slipping (God Bless InDesign!) on the print publishing industry, and they have damn near train-wrecked the entire industry. Buggy products. Late products. Price gouging.

Quark sucks! Terribly! And yet I must use it because it is the _industry standard_! I can’t even get eps or pdf images to display properly, I have to use tifs. Never mind the constant crashing, and the fact that I have to ugrade repeatedly to get normal functionality, arrrgh. Hopefully inDesign will start being widely supported soon.

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**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/45 "2003-07-31T06:22:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Creative\_Munster \*  
> \*\*Listen, Dipwad, not everyone who has a shitty job is uneducated or a scumbag. Life can be a cruel unforgiving bitch. My hope for you is that you fall on hard times and are forced to take a job “beneath” you. Then perhaps you will learn the sympathy you so desperately lack.
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> In conclusion, go fuck yourself, you clueless bastard. \*\*

Listen you testicle shitting ass clown. If you’re important enough to a company, they won’t lay you off, unless they go bankrupt. If you have a good enough education and/or work experience, you will find another position that is at least better than working in the daycare or fast food industries. And regardless you dumb hoe, if you do end up taking a job “beneath you”, it should still be expected that you will be treated like shit. So shut your cock hole.

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**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/46 "2003-07-31T12:35:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duderdude2 \*  
> \*\*they won’t lay you off, unless they go bankrupt. If you have a good enough education and/or work experience, you will find another position that is at least better than working in the daycare or fast food industries. \*\*

Having been layed off twice in one year, let me assure you that in many companies your importance as an individual is never even considered. The CEO needs a new yacht, orders are drawn up to do a layoff so he can sell some stock options at a better price. Even at companies that are not run by looting pirate CEOs, divisions are often looked at as a whole. You could be the greatest employee in the world, but if the group you work in isn’t making a profit, you will still wind up unemployed. And in today’s economy, lots of folks are having to take jobs that they are way over-qualified for, so show some respect to us struggling working stiffs ok?

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**Author:** ![Shelly7899](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@Shelly7899](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shelly7899)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/47 "2003-07-31T13:27:35Z")

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Circuit City

The customer service sucks! :mad:

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**Author:** ![eeclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/49beb7/32.png) [@eeclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eeclem)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/48 "2003-07-31T14:09:46Z")

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i’d like to nominate Carnival cruise lines. I did have a good time on my vacation, but no thanks to snarly employees, food that often resembled chum and the fact that they “lost” my luggage for the first day. and let me say, when you are absolutely panicked thinking your entire $1000+ vacation is ruined b/c you have no clean clothing or even a bathing suit, getting a “We’re Sorry We Fucked Up and Hid Your Luggage Behind a Garbage Chute” gift of Carnival t-shirt and toothbrush doesn’t even put a dent in it.

the point of my rant, pay the extra $100 dollars and go on a decent cruise line.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/49 "2003-07-31T14:48:31Z")

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Best Buy. Every time I walk into the local Best Buy, there are at least 25 workers standing around doing absolutely nothing. And ordering online from them for store pickup is a pain in the ass - the girl argued with me last time when I had everything there to prove I’d done it. If it weren’t for the fact that their prices are lower than Amazon, I’d cease doing business with them, period.

Ava

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/50 "2003-07-31T14:52:58Z")

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Cablevision.

'nuff said.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/51 "2003-07-31T17:33:10Z")

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> I don’t think it’s entirely Apple’s fault if the public prefers McDonalds to sirloin.

Unfortunately, Apple hasn’t produced sirloin in a decade.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/52 "2003-07-31T17:39:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TeaRoses \*  
> \*\*SBC, my local phone company. They call me about three times a week to ask me if I want to change to them for long distance. How many people are they freaking paying to do that all day? \*\*

This is only the beginning. Don’t ask me how I know.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/53 "2003-07-31T18:11:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by eeclem \*  
> **i’d like to nominate Carnival cruise lines. I did have a good time on my vacation, but no thanks to snarly employees…**

Man! I hear ya! I went on cruises as a kid years ago when it was “an event”. The crews were mostly Italian and the service was awsome. A real fun-loving bunch that really made the trip. I recently went on a Carnival and the crew was a joyless bunch of Eastern Bloc refugees who’s idea of service was a scowl and a sigh. They wouldn’t have recognized “fun” if it jumped on thier chest and shouted “I’M FUN!! I’M FUN!!” They seemed to hold the whole concept in contempt!

I suppose I can’t really blame the actual people, but why the hell does the cruise line hire these wet blankets? Oh, yeah. They work for nothing, thats why. :rolleyes:

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_“Lets get them meek bastards **NOW!** ”_

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/54 "2003-07-31T20:01:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duderdude2 \*  
> **First, I never stated they deserve to be treated like shit, but instead stated it should be expected.**

And why should it be expected? Are we to just accept that those who feel superior have the right, nay the duty, to belittle those they feel are inferior because of the jobs they hold?

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> **What do you expect out of a career that requires no education?**

Is simple human decency and empathy too much to ask?

Perhaps a little gratitude for watching your sniveling little brat all day so that you might use your higher and obviously superior education to pursue a career?

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> **Now if you’re quite done with putting words into my mouth, I’ll be on my way.**

You’re absolutely right, I shouldn’t put words in your mouth for fear that someone may misinterpret something intelligent coming out as your own.

If and when you ever climb down off of your high horse perhaps you’ll figure out why food service “lackeys” spit in your food.

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/55 "2003-07-31T20:26:41Z")

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I really like Toyota cars. My favorite car I’ve ever owned was a Toyota. I hate hate hate Toyota dealers. I just bought a new car yesterday. Hint: it wasn’t a Toyota, after the way Mr.Valley and I were treated. If only Toyotas could be sold and repaired by other dealers…

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**Author:** ![The13thUnicorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85e7bf/32.png) [@The13thUnicorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The13thUnicorn)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/56 "2003-07-31T20:36:11Z")

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Utility companies that are monopolies!!!

For us that is phone, cable, gas and power/water.

Each is a seperate company with a monopoly. We just moved and can we say FUCKED UP!

What do you mean you don’t take a meter reading when people move, oh you do an estimate, right, and did you know that the previous tenants operated a day home? No, I didn’t think so, why didn’t I ask for a reading, oh you mean I could have? So why don’t you just do it when someone moves, and why when I arranged for disconnection and hook-up SEVEN weeks before hand didn’t they tell me that I NEEDED to request a meter reading!!!

Should have saved myself the aggravation and just bent over. Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/57 "2003-07-31T21:24:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by smiling bandit \*  
> \*\*Unfortunately, Apple hasn’t produced sirloin in a decade. \*\*

Ugh. I don’t want to hijack this thread with YAMPCT (as someone previously said, I believe), so I won’t continue. 🙂

My contribution: any American car company that can’t be bothered making cars that last as long as Hondas and Toyotas. I’m bitter from a previous bad experience with a used Ford Probe. It may have been an anomaly, but from what I hear, it’s not…

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**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/58 "2003-08-01T02:08:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by soulmurk \*  
> \*\*If and when you ever climb down off of your high horse perhaps you’ll figure out why food service “lackeys” spit in your food. \*\*

God you’re retarded. What high horse might I be riding on? I never stated I had a good job, did I? It just so happens I’m fresh out of high school and have an as-to-be-expected position with a local employer. Now I really hope you’re done putting words into my mouth you arrogant bitch.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/59 "2003-08-01T02:28:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duderdude2 \*  
> \*\*God you’re retarded. What high horse might I be riding on? I never stated I had a good job, did I? It just so happens I’m fresh out of high school and have an as-to-be-expected position with a local employer. Now I really hope you’re done putting words into my mouth you arrogant bitch. \*\*

Fresh out of highschool, never saw that comming. 😛

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/companies-that-deserve-to-go-bankrupt/191580/60 "2003-08-01T07:07:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duderdude2 \*  
> \*\*God you’re retarded. What high horse might I be riding on? I never stated I had a good job, did I? It just so happens I’m fresh out of high school and have an as-to-be-expected position with a local employer. Now I really hope you’re done putting words into my mouth you arrogant bitch. \*\*

Interesting that of all my points and counterpoints you chose to respond angrily to the half-attempt at an insult at the end and completely ignore the rest.

The high horse you’re riding on is a roan known as deluded idealism, but fear not, you’ll soon be bucked off like all the rest.

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