# Compare the "New" City to the "Old" City

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**Created:** [December 3, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/compare-the-new-city-to-the-old-city/706254 "2014-12-03T20:27:12Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/compare-the-new-city-to-the-old-city/706254/41 "2014-12-07T03:06:36Z")

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I was at Old Toongabbie yesterday. It became Old when the railway station attracted development (shops ) to it. "Old Windsor Road"starts right near Old Toongabbie. Silly name for a road, given that Windsor Road also starts near there and its a stupid way to get to Windsor. (The Old Windsor Road may have been a nightmare in history, I guess but its now been rebuilt - wouldn’t that make it new ? - and is now a quite good road to get to Windsor.

So Old Toongabbie has the schools, and a few scattered shops, and otherwise regular suburban houses, while the railway station , the new part, has the shopping mall, and shopping street(s), and apartments.

In the past there was a suburb/town called Young Wallsend. Young just meant the same as New…

If you drop down from Pitt Town, you arrive at Pitt Town Bottoms.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/compare-the-new-city-to-the-old-city/706254/42 "2014-12-07T15:58:29Z")

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Bath, England: Major tourist destination, world famous for its history Population 88,000  
Bath, Maine: Small coastal city, home to BIW, which makes ships for the navy. Population 8,500.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/compare-the-new-city-to-the-old-city/706254/43 "2014-12-08T10:29:43Z")

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Various Bristols in Canada: all with a population of under 2,000, two of them quite old in new world terms.

Old Bristol, UK: 437,492 inhabitants, majorish seaport, town everyone in the UK will have heard of.

> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Braintree, MA, a Boston suburb with a population over 35,000.
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> New Braintree, MA pretty much in the center of the state, population under 1000. I have a good friend who lives there and have been there many times. Never been the old one though.

Old Braintree, England, population 41,634. Suburban commuter town with several nice churches and a long history, and is the hometown of the band The Prodigy.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/compare-the-new-city-to-the-old-city/706254/44 "2014-12-08T14:43:14Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> There are many bridges across the Seine in Paris. The oldest (several hundred years old) is called Pont Neuf (New Bridge).

New College in Oxford, England dates from 1379… it’s “New”, in the sense that both it and Oriel College are both technically “College of St. Mary”, and Oriel dates from 1324, thereby making the second one the “New” one.

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