# Complaint

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [January 28, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636 "2013-01-28T18:49:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TopTom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@TopTom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TopTom)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/1 "2013-01-28T18:49:57Z")

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Idle Thoughts, as is the case with the people who claimed I was being disingenuous, you are wrong. I did not post a message primarily intended to promote a cause, venture, organization, event, website or other entity or activity.” I simply asked a question and then provided information, explaining what some may not be fully aware of. I was not trying to promote anything so you are wrong.

Also, what does the name I am registered with have anything to do with anything? I wanted to use the name Tom, which is my name, but was told to use a name with more than three words, the first thing that came to my mind was “TopTom” indicating that I was the top of the Toms.

The decent thing would have been to delete or censor the people who were incorrectly saying I was disingenuous, which you did not do, but which you still could do. Also, you now seem to be claiming that I am disingenuous which is incorrect. Furious Marmot admitted that the word she/he used is juvenile and also suggested that she/he felt that people were mocking and rejecting me. I did not argue against these people, I clearly stated they were wrong and they are, as are you. I continue to expect apologizes which I feel is not at all uncalled for. They made a mistake and they should have the guts to apologize.

If you looked at my other posts and comments you could easily see that I am polite and considerate of other’s feelings. You could delete this post, you could delete other of my post and you could stop me from commenting, but that does not make you right.

Tom,

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/2 "2013-01-28T18:59:03Z")

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They don’t delete or censor here other than outright spam or sock accounts. Even those get moved to a forum the mods can see. Nothing vanishes.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/3 "2013-01-28T19:17:30Z")

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> [@TopTom](#):
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> If you looked at my other posts and comments you could easily see that I am polite and considerate of other’s feelings.

If you provided a link to the discussion in question, which is considered good form, we’d be able to.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/4 "2013-01-28T19:17:44Z")

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A reference would be nice. Otherwise I’ll default to the side of the mods.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/5 "2013-01-28T19:22:19Z")

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Here’s the [locked thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680495)

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/6 "2013-01-28T19:22:32Z")

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[Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680495) is the link to those of you that are asking for it.

Oh sorry, **runner pat** got here before me. Oh well.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/7 "2013-01-28T19:23:22Z")

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Just remember this is a family message board. All this talk about Tops and Areolas… it’s making some of us swoon.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/8 "2013-01-28T19:24:01Z")

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TopTom is referring to the thread [“What do you think about Topfreedom?”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680495) A movement which has nothing at all to do with his username, of course.

Edit: I am filled with shame at my slowness.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/9 "2013-01-28T19:25:14Z")

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Also of note is what the closing post said:

> [@What do you think about “Topfreedom?”](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-topfreedom/648613/26):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Do not post … messages primarily intended to promote a cause, venture, organization, event (except Straight Dope-related events), website, or other entity or activity, whether or not money is involved.
> 
> ..which this topic seems a prime example of, even down to the name you registered with.
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> Asking about what people think of something is one thing (and allowed here). Starting a topic asking what posters think and then arguing against them, calling them names, and demanding apologizes is not.

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/10 "2013-01-28T19:36:10Z")

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Well, I didn’t participate in the topfree thread, but I did read it because I was curious about your agenda, which seems incongruous with this statement:

> [@Showing Cleavage Then Covering It- Why?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/showing-cleavage-then-covering-it-why/647892/156):
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> snipped… it seems likely to me that some people, particularly young women, like to push the boundaries of propriety in regard to the exposing of their bodies.
> 
> Tom,

Just to clarify, the sight of cleavage causes you to clutch your pearls, but you’re cool with bare, free range breasts? How’s that work?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/11 "2013-01-28T20:10:25Z")

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**TopTom** , if you are interested, Gyrate has started [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680513) in GD for debate.

It’s possible that you just got off on the wrong foot. That happens occasionally, and sometimes those who do develop into worthwhile posters.

Have a look if you like, and feel free to join the discussion.

This is a great message board - one of, if not the, best on the Internet in my opinion, but it does take a bit of getting used to.

If you want to stick around, welcome to the boards. If not, well, so it goes.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/12 "2013-01-28T20:32:58Z")

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Complaints about moderation belong in About This Message Board. You should perhaps have done a little reading before posting. Then you’d know this stuff, and the party’s you’re addressing will more likely see it.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/13 "2013-01-28T20:33:09Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Edit: I am filled with shame at my slowness.

Did your science class once tour a lab where you bitten by a radioactive sloth?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/14 "2013-01-28T20:37:16Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> **Complaints about moderation belong in About This Message Board.** You should perhaps have done a little reading before posting. Then you’d know this stuff, and the party’s you’re addressing will more likely see it.

That’s where he put it.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/15 "2013-01-28T21:03:23Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Did your science class once tour a lab where you bitten by a radioactive sloth?

No, it was just a regular sloth. I was the only kid who couldn’t outrun it. ☹

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/16 "2013-01-28T21:36:11Z")

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True facts about slothses.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/XrUM8m2rnP0/maxresdefault.jpg "True Facts About Sloths") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrUM8m2rnP0)

“It’s camouflage motherfucker! Mind your own business.”

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/17 "2013-01-28T21:49:16Z")

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Not going to comment on the modding – perhaps it was right perhaps it wasn’t perfect. But I will say that a lot of posters on that thread made what seems like unwarranted assumptions/snide comments about the OP.

I think (we) too many times jump on ‘noobs’ like a wolf pack on fresh meat.

As Shodan says, stick around and give the board a chance, **TopTom** – it’s a pretty darn good one if my over 10 on it years mean anything.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/18 "2013-01-28T23:47:58Z")

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Yeah, there IS a tendency for some to give new posters a hard time. While we’re not asking you to tolerate much foolishness, you need to give new people the benefit of the doubt, or at least engage them constructively before you start throwing rocks at 'em.

That being said, some people do come here with their own agenda that needs airing, they’re not really interested in the more community aspects of the message board. We discourage such use.

Finally, every movement needs an anthem and TopTom is lucky, Rodney Carrington has just the song. It is not, however, a Sunday school/work safe video so keep that in mind when clicking on the link below.

[- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ndxUsHjqR4)

\*\*EXPLICIT AND UNCENSORED, NOT WORK SAFE (UNLESS YOU WORK IN A TITTY BAR)!  
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/19 "2013-01-29T00:09:04Z")

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I thought the OP came here for an argument.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/complaint/648636/20 "2013-01-29T00:13:54Z")

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OH, oh I’m sorry, but this is abuse.

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