# Computer/Video Games Most People Don't Remember

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** video-games-e-games\
**Created:** [March 8, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594 "2024-03-08T03:41:56Z")\
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Anyone else played [Celtic Tales: Balor of the Evil Eye](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Tales:_Balor_of_the_Evil_Eye)? Heavy on the Irish atmosphere, which made it a little unique for the genre.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
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… Enchanter, Leader Board Golf, Leather Goddesses of Phobos, Necromancer, Digdug, River Run, Last Days of Saigon, Clowns and Balloons…

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
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Who can sing along with this?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/p6L6MhSgpgo/hqdefault.jpg "C64 m.u.l.e. music") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6L6MhSgpgo)

(The insanely catchy M.U.L.E. intro music. It’s been probably 40 years and this tune is still lodged in my head. Game’s a lot of fun, too.)

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594/84 "2024-03-10T06:48:36Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Autoduel, Alley Cat, Stealth, Pitfall, International Karate, Jumbo Jet Pilot, Submarine Commander, Joust, Great American Cross Country Road Race, Zombies!, Voodoo Castle, Infidel, Jumpman, Rainbow Walker…

Oh, I forgot about [Autoduel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoduel)! It was based off of Car Wars, a table top game made by Steve Jackson games. I don’t remember having a good time with Autoduel. Mainly because I found it difficult and I just kept dying.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594/85 "2024-03-10T07:03:55Z")

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I never had anything to play this on but whenever I was in a computer store and this was on one of their demonstrator models…

[https://www.mobygames.com/game/30101/3-in-three/](https://www.mobygames.com/game/30101/3-in-three/)

> [@Odesio](#):
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> Oh, I forgot about [Autoduel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoduel)! It was based off of Car Wars, a table top game made by Steve Jackson games. I don’t remember having a good time with Autoduel. Mainly because I found it difficult and I just kept dying.

The Commodore version has a couple of ways to cheat the system when starting a new game. One official, one not; I recall the former as being programmed into the game like a text version of the Konami code and the latter had something to do with the floppy, which I discovered by accident. Both gave the player a significant head start.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Gauntlet

I gotta question that one. Besides being a very popular arcade game, it’s had a [new version](https://store.steampowered.com/app/258970/Gauntlet_Slayer_Edition/) put out within the last ten years.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594/87 "2024-03-10T07:30:11Z")

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even tho its been gone for a couple of decades the original online graphical RPG Neverwinter nights

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594/88 "2024-03-10T08:23:14Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I never had anything to play this on

3 in Three was great. Fool’s Errand, the predecessor game by the same designer, was also great fun.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594/89 "2024-03-10T10:07:16Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Fool’s Errand, the predecessor game by the same designer, was also great fun.

But it seems people do not remember the _sequel_ ( _The Fool and His Money_) ? It was at least as good.

There was also the one by a different author, _System’s Twilight_

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594/90 "2024-03-10T11:06:16Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Fool’s Errand, the predecessor game by the same designer

Loved that one. How about  
Heaven and Earth  
Shufflepuck Cafe  
Projectyle (Amiga)

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594/91 "2024-03-10T13:34:48Z")

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A little more obscure, I think, for the C64

Rockstar Ate My Hamster — a quirky rock band management game

The Sentry/Sentinel — a kind of turn-based 3D rendered puzzle game. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s remakes or adaptations of this

Bobby Bearing - an isometric game where you control a marble trying to rescue his family or friends or something. This is obviously a game designed for the Speccy, so may have been popular in the UK, but here it in the US I’ve only seen it on crack disks, where it was mislabeled as “Spin Dizzy,” another similar isometric perspective game.

Rocketball - a roller derby type of game where you try to throw a ball into a goal while opposing skaters try to knock you down and make you drop your ball. I played the crap out of this.

Montezuma’s Revenge — an early platformer that controlled exceptionally well and moved quickly (unlike you, highly praised Great Giana Sisters) programmed by a teenaged kid. Get the loot, avoid the obstacles, move to the next level. There was no end to the game, as it was unfinished, but no matter how much I played, I could never get that far.

The Pawn - a graphic text adventure that advertised the most comprehensive parser at the time. Some of the puzzles were absolutely maddening — I kept writing Rainbird/Firebird for hints and answers so often that they eventually just sent me the walkthrough. Some of the puzzles I don’t even know how I was supposed to figure out. Beautiful graphics for the C64 at the time, and very well written characters with a sense of humor. You even meet the devil at one point!

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Zuma/Zuma Deluxe

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
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Choplifter, Witness, The Count, Asylum, Maniac Mansion, Archon II:Adept, Shanus 2, Blue Max 2000, Castle Wolfenstein, Winter Games, Pole Position, Zaxxon, Ghostbusters, Bruce Lee…

Worst game ever: E.T. (I still don’t have a clue how to play it or what was happening).

I liked Autoduel, but it was hard to understand if you had never played Car Wars. I haven’t the foggiest idea if any of these games were re-released or are still popular. Most of them were great, very fun to play even now, and a few very heavily played in the day. Some I would like to play right now after remembering their existence.

There are some BASIC games I don’t remember the names. In addition to the “draw mountains and two guns, enter angle and power”, there was “two growing snakes that could not collide” (a more fun, earlier version of Tron?) and Kingdom (Hammurabi gets grain to feed a growing population, insects eat it).

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> **[Conan: Hall of Volta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan:_Hall_of_Volta)**
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> Conan: Hall of Volta (or simply Conan on the box cover and title screen) is a platform game from American developers Eric Robinson and Eric Parker and published by Datasoft in 1984. It is based on the character Conan created by Robert E. Howard. This game was originally written for the Apple II and ported to the Commodore 64 and Atari 8-bit family.
> Released in 1984, the game's launch coincided with the debut of the film Conan the Destroyer. The box shows a painting of Arnold Schwarzenegger as t...

> **[Skyfox (1984 video game)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyfox_(1984_video_game))**
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> Skyfox is a combat flight simulation game developed by Ray Tobey for the Apple II and published by Electronic Arts in 1984. Ariolasoft published the game in Europe. It was released for the ZX Spectrum, Amstrad CPC, Commodore 64, and Macintosh in 1985, to the Amiga and Atari ST in 1986, and to the PC-88 in 1988.
> The 1987 sequel, Skyfox II: The Cygnus Conflict, was developed for the Commodore 64 by Dynamix without Tobey's involvement.
> The player pilots the Skyfox, the most advanced attack fighter...

And someone was wondering if t text adventures (AKA Interactive Fiction) were still a thing, there’s a competition every year that grew out of the usenet group for IF:

[https://ifcomp.org/](https://ifcomp.org/)

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Rockstar Ate My Hamster

I was a big fan of that one (and probably my first introduction to the name Cecil!) though it would be years before I got half the joke artist names beyond the super obvious ones.

I owned The Pawn but got stuck almost immediately and didn’t have your drive to send letters to the dev/publisher 😃

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/computer-video-games-most-people-dont-remember/998594/96 "2024-03-10T18:28:17Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Worst game ever: E.T. (I still don’t have a clue how to play it or what was happening).

I owned a copy of E.T. and it’s well rembered as the poster child for the video game crash of 1983. Not that E.T. caused the crash on its own of course. Another infamous game was Superman 64 from 1999 released for the N64. I was with a friend when he bought it and put it in his console and 15 minutes later I was like, “Dude, I’m sorry you’re out $70.”

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Archon was a big C64 favorite of mine, as was the [Pinball Construction Set](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinball_Construction_Set). Put a lot of hours into fine tuning my pinball machines.

Had this on DOS. Great game.

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I owned The Pawn but got stuck almost immediately and didn’t have your drive to send letters to the dev/publisher 😃

Yeah, pretty early on in the game, like maybe not even a quarter of the way through, you get to this point where there’s a boulder blocking the path up the mountain. You know how you’re supposed get around it? You’re supposed to find a rake and a hoe, and then tie the rake and hoe together with a tee-shirt, and then use the command LEVER BOULDER WITH RAKE AND HOE. I kid you not.

I found a walkthrough that describes it:

> [@](#):
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> Now it’s time to  
> retrace your steps to the foothills where you last left the large boulder.  
> Once you reach the durned thing, you can UNCOVER THE WRISTBAND.Then, TIE THE  
> RAKE AND HOE TOGETHER WITH THE SHIRT. It isn’t very plausible, but you now  
> have just the implement with which to move the boulder. Bet you would never  
> think of the next entry: LEVER THE BOULDER WITH THE RAKE AND THE HOE. (Yes  
> sir,it’s a beaut, all right!) Well, it works, and the boulder goes bounding  
> down the mountainside out of harm’s way.

I just hope that this was hinted at in one of the character conversations, but I don’t have any evidence of that. I kinda want to fire up the emulator and go back to the guru and ask him about the boulder to see if he has any advice, because there’s no way a normal human being would be able to figure that out.

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Hah! That boulder is where I got stuck and stopped. It was obvious that you were supposed to lever it out (I think there was an in-game hint even) but I would try to use the rake, use the hoe, etc. Never imagined having to tie them together into one uber-lever.

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Spy vs. Spy

Oooh…I had completely forgotten that one. Loved it.

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