What is a Glock 14? They start at Model 17, and the only one unavailable to the public is the Model 19 (though there are places where you can test shoot it, which would be fun as hell).
Incidentally, if you see a gun being sold new for around $100, keep walking. Those are made by companies like Jennings, and if the fit hits the shan you’re better off throwing one of those at your attacker.
Price. A good reason…but you even said it doesn’t have the ‘kick’…or in other words it isn’t going to respond the same way when you’ll need it as it did when you were in the range. If you are practicing to improve your skill for some possible future confrontation, don’t you think you’ll need to get used to that ‘kick’ and that louder report? I’m just asking, like.
And I was wrong about the Glocks. What was shown to me and called a ‘Glock 14’ was actually something that is called the ‘Glock 26’
It doesn’t fit your criteria of cheap, but I just love the Beretta Mini Cougar. They make both 9mm and .45 caliber, and it’s designed for concealed carry.
For tiny (I mean, I know a man who carried one in his back pocket), I also recommend Beretta’s .22 (sorry, can’t remember the model number and Beretta’s site is forbidden at work). Unfortunately, I also know a man who went dancing after shooting himself in the leg with his .22 handgun, so if you can afford a more powerful gun, I’d go for it.
Good question. The key is practice, practice, practice. In order to practice a lot, you don’t want to ingrain bad habits caused by flinching. Practicing with full-power loads all the time can lead to bad habits.
You can get a good used quality .38 revolver for a couple of hundred bucks, and it will work every time, even if left untouched decades later, as long as you dont let it rust away. Revolvers are cheap because of current low demand(most people now want semi autos because that is what they see on movies and tv shows). A revolver is EXTREMELY reliable - and much cheaper too. A 5 shot Smith is quite small.
Your Glock is one of the most reliable semi autos made, it is almost as reliable as a revolver.
Aileen Wornous(the famous female serial killer) shot, stopped and killed between 6 and 9 men(we are not sure exactly how many men she killed) with a plain ole .22 revolver. She did not need a .44 magnum.
Robert Kennedy went down immediately after being shot with a .22 in 1968.
If a person is hit in the right spot with a .22 he will go down, and it is easy for anyone to shoot a .22 with great accuracy.
IF a vital area is not hit, an attacker wont die, even if he is shot with a large caliber bullet. A larger caliber is certainly better, but after taking 3 shots in the head, and 3 in the heart from a .22, most people will leave you alone.
If someone is pointing a lowly little .22 at your eyes or your heart, you’d better hope they dont pull the trigger.
Dont buy anything by Lorcin or Jennings. Or anything else that cost 100 bucks or less. Or even 200 dollars new. It’s crap.
If he is only giving your 250 for your 21 and still charging another 350 for the 30 or 36, he’s ripping you off!! Dont go for that. Matter of fact, don’t buy at his shop at all. Get a gun somewhere else. That’s terrible!
… on second thought, I guess that’s about retail civilian market for those things. In my mind, a Glock should not cost $600 bucks. Though a Glock is worth that IMO, it shouldn’t cost that. I dont remember the last time I paid over 450 for one. And that’s with three hicaps and tritium sights.
Oh, btw, I have a picture of me with my Glock 18 online. It’s my most favoritist pitol in the whole world. Not a converstion – a Glock 18. If anyone is near Tampa and wants to shoot, let me know : D
RE: The Titanium, Scandium, Alumantium or whatever else they’ve got now…
The lighter revolvers are misleading!!! You think “oh, it’s lighter and easier to carry arround. It’s a whole 5 oz less than the steel one, so I will get it for my wife because she is so tiny and can’t carry around a steel revolver”
But then you forget that the mass of the weapon is what absorbs recoil. Those tiny lightweight revolvers SUCK ASS to shoot. Especially if your concern is recoil. A day at the range with one of those is not fun at all. Why not just squeeze some fire crackers in your fist and call it a day!
The advantage you gain from it being so light is minimal, IMO. Especially compared to the cons of a super light design.
Taurus revolvers= Great Deal/Good Quality
Taurus pistols= Not so much…
Actually, their Berretta clones are not too bad- even made at the old Berretta factory. But they dont do the compacts. Thier compacts are the Millineums. Millineums are… well, get something else.
I think there will be a gun & knife show not too far away next week. Can one get good deals on good guns without having a gunsmith in tow to verify quality?
Only if you know what you want in advance, and don’t spring for anything you haven’t edcucated yourself on. There’s lots of foreign-made stuff coming into the US now, some of it is inexpensive and works well, and some of it is less-than-so, in odd calibers and with unique problems.
For a concealable gun I would stay with a 38, with a 4 or 5-inch barrel. The reason is that the next-lowest-common caliber is 22WMR, and that isn’t real powerful out of short barrels. You’d want at least 8 inches of barrel for 22WMR and while it’s not a bad choice for a house gun (-especially with small people or non-shooters) it isn’t concealable.
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Even a revolver is not 100% reliable. I had a Dan Wesson .357 revolver that used to jam regularly when the cylinder locked up but only with a maximum load. Make sure that whatever you get you run enough of a certain ammunition through it that you can trust it. Don’t bet your life on a pistol/ammo combination you’ve never tried.
Well, reputable pawn shops are a questionable proposition around here considering that my peer group would probably assume that I’m drug-dealing & gambling if I started asking. Not a lot of used gun opportunities at good gun shops either. And we’re currently attempting to shut down two businesses belonging to a guy who has made threats to police, kept repair crews off his property with a gun when there was a gas main blow-out (he tested the leak w/ a lit match), tried to crush a previous zoning person with a front-end loader, and–according to court records–used that same front end loader to pull onto a runway and scare away airplanes because his runway wasn’t licensed by the feds. So I am now the proud owner of a matte, non-ported version of this. I wasn’t intending to buy, but I forgot that it was the Ruger that sold used for $350 and not the Taurus, so when I saw $350-ish, my heart melted and what could I do?
Completely forgot about getting a holster, though…
Most gun shops have a nice used collection that they’re willing to stand behind, and a used gun is not necessarily a bad buy because very few people can afford to shoot a gun enough to mess it up, so it becomes a good buy (broken in and inexpensive, you can’t beat that).