Here’s a link to her personal account of that day.
Here’s a more recent example:
http://newsok.com/man-has-no-regrets-defending-oklahoma-city-pharmacy/article/3371710
EarlyOut you’re livin’ in a fantasy Brady Bunch world.
You are wrong.
Ever hear of target shooting? It’s this thing where you use a handgun to poke holes in pieces of paper. It’s a bit like archery or golf or pool. I can give you a long but still incomplete list of handguns that would be very poor choices for defense, let alone killing people. I can give you a similar list for hunting handguns.
:rolleyes: There really should be a Godwin’s Law for guns. In any argument about guns, there is always someone who thinks guns = penises.
EarlyOut
You really should read or get out more or heck even watch more TV. There’s such a thing as target shooting.
I can vouch for this, as a former owner of various types of guns. They do NOT go off by themselves. They can’t.
Just occurred to me. So what if they can only be used to kill. That’s the intent of pointing it at a bad guy. Although of course we prefer to call it “stopping a threat”.
That’s what I used my handguns for, when I had a few. I never robbed or killed anyone, and neither did any of the people I went shooting with.
That’s not what he was saying.
Compare the current US to 50 years ago. The male ideal used to be to strive for rugged individualism - our heros were manly men like John Wayne (or at least most of the characters he portrayed). Guns were commonplace, and nothing remarkable - they were treated like a tool. You’d bring your .22 to school on your shoulder and go to the shooting club after school. You could order guns out of the Sears catalog. The very idea that gun ownership was such a controversial issue as it is now would be comical to those people.
Over the years, the culture has changed dramatically. Some of it is good (less bigotry, etc) but there’s clearly a tendency to discourage traditional “manly” attitudes and behaviors in men, and rugged individualism is no longer an ideal. We’re trained more to be subservient to authority and to rely on others. The idea of taking personal responsibility for your own safety is repugnant to some people - after all, the Real Men, the government agents/police, are here to protect you! Why would you want to try to do it yourself? What’s wrong with you?
I don’t mean to sound exclusionary to men - I’m all for women training to defend themselves with guns - but traditionally gun ownership and usage has been more associated with men.
There you go again! Ridicule dies not support your (our) side of this thing.
I hear ya. But wouldn’t you say that it’s true though?
His attitude irks me when I consider that similar attitudes made it illegal for Susan Hupp to save her parents and possibly others.
Notice that EarlyOut hasn’t responded to my recent posts?
No, but they can, and often do, go off under circumstances so eloquently described by Blake Tyner:
vis-a-vis;
This is my rifle
This is my gun
This is for shooting
This is for fun
Something like that.
How many single purpose devices do you know that are used for that single purpose less than 1 time in 1000?
Most handguns are bought for the purposes of: (more or less in order)
Target shooting.
Plinking.
Collecting, never to be fired at all.
Light varmit hunting.
Making someone feel safer.
Very very very few handguns are ever used to target a fellow human, even in legit self-defence.
I will give you that, there will never be a shortage of idiots.
Adding the story about Texas CHL carrier and hero Mark Allen Wilson, who, as a direct result of Ms. Hupp’s initiative to get guns legally into the hands of law-abiding citizens, saved at least 2 lives.
And I’ve done this before, but hopefully it can be eye-opening again:
Today, in America, 199,999,970 guns didn’t kill anyone.
Today, in America, 43,999,970 gun owners didn’t kill anyone.
Bingo. Thank you for understanding. It’s good that someone did.
I also think it’s no coincidence that the anti-gun movement is largely a girl’s club and runs completely on emotion rather than logic, with various women trying to act like they’re the mommy to the whole country. Carolyn McCarthy: Her husband was shot (by a crazed crook with a handgun on a subway) so she thinks YOU shouldn’t be allowed to have “assault weapons.” Sarah Brady: her husband was shot (by a crazed lunatic) so she thinks YOU shouldn’t be able to carry a handgun to protect YOURSELF. Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Brady and McCarthy - those are the four horsewomen of the anti-gun movement and they’re obviously all female.
Women in general just seem to be way more afraid of guns. I have a lot of friends, male and female, who have never had any exposure to firearms and who would probably vote Democratic and be in favor of gun control if you asked them. Nearly to a person, if I show them a gun, the guys’ reaction is “oh wow, that’s awesome, can you show me how to hold it, etc.” and the girls’ reaction is “OMG OMG a gun! Isn’t that, like illegal without a permit or something?”
What these women apparently don’t realize is that they’re just conforming to the old patriarchy by insisting that their lives and everyone else’s lives should be in the hands of the government, and not in their own hands. A woman who was truly a feminist and who truly thought for herself would learn how to shoot and protect herself, not rely on someone else to do it.
Reminds me of a quote (paraphrased):
“Gun Control: a movement where, when a shooting tragedy occurs, they take the guns away from all the people who didn’t do it.”
I’m wondering, though…how many of the people willing to relinquish all or part of their 2nd Amendment rights (as well as mine) would have been willing to relinquish any of the others to, say, George W. Bush…
Edited to add: And, of course, the government we’re entrusting with our safety is the same one we Pit for waterboarding, warrantless wiretaps, etc.
Well, I haven’t really had any use for Third Amendment protections. What do I get in return?
I chopped off a part, because I really WANT to stay on subject. Gotta say, I love that snippet. It’s what bothers me, as I said before. We end up curtailing and punishing, the people who didn’t do it and would never do it. Does not compute.