# Concentrated sunlight using mirrors enough to kill someone?

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**Created:** [May 8, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739 "2023-05-08T08:29:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739/101 "2023-05-19T21:00:22Z")

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Mythbusters failed because they were having a hard time aiming them all accurately. It can be done, but only if you know the tricks to it, which they didn’t.

And it’s not particularly a “Greek story”, either. The feat is often attributed to Archimedes, but while he did make many weapons, that wasn’t one of them.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739/102 "2023-05-19T21:33:07Z")

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MIT succeeded in lighting a ship on fire twice. It can be done, it’s just tricky to aim.

And in actually battle, dipping and arrow into pitch, lighting it, and shooting at the ship is more effective.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739/103 "2023-05-20T13:56:10Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> And in actually battle, dipping and arrow into pitch, lighting it, and shooting at the ship is more effective.

In battle, the flaming arrow might be more effective. But in war, the solar reflector would be.

A large part of Archimedes’ actual success vs. the Roman Army was that the weapons he invented were so far beyond the Romans’ understanding that they ended up terrified of everything that they couldn’t instantly recognize. And if you’re a classical-era soldier, and your enemy is somehow making a whole hillside appear to be ablaze and suddenly your ship is burning without anything ever even touching you, you’re not going to particularly care that the blazing-hillside weapon isn’t actually as effective as a pitch arrow; you’re just going to do everything you can to not have to fight them.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739/104 "2023-05-20T14:21:56Z")

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As well, the range of a flaming arrow is a couple hundred yards. The range of a mirror weapon on a clear day might be a mile or more.

Even now militaries are very excited about the advantages energy-based weapons will have in range, time of flight, and ease of aiming vs. more traditional “kinetic” weapons. And, just as Archimedes found in his day, stable aiming over the time required to deliver enough energy in one spot to really matter is just about the longest pole in that tent.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739/105 "2023-05-20T19:45:12Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> As well, the range of a flaming arrow is a couple hundred yards. The range of a mirror weapon on a clear day might be a mile or more.

Only if it’s an exceptionally large mirror (or collection of mirrors). The mirror area needed scales as the square of the distance to the target.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739/106 "2023-05-21T02:51:58Z")

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Obviously, you didn’t read the thread because this has all been discussed. And Mythbusters did achieve a small flame, on about the third attempt.

In reality ships roll, pitch, and move, and that combined with it being relatively hard to aim in the first place would make it a practical impossibility.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739/107 "2023-05-21T08:24:38Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Most kids have used a mirror to heat up a bug or leaf.

Most kids have used a magnifying glass to heat up a bug or leaf.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concentrated-sunlight-using-mirrors-enough-to-kill-someone/983739/108 "2023-05-21T13:06:50Z")

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Yeah, but i used a parabolic mirror as a kid to boil water. It was a camping thing. It was fussy, but it did work.

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