# Concern over Cafe Society trends.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 30, 2001, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613 "2001-10-30T21:58:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misery_Loves_Co)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/21 "2001-11-02T22:40:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MLC \*  
> Using the passive form: “. . .It still is concerning to me” or “it still is concerning me”

Oops - drop the first one (“Concerning to me”) because that _is_ using it as an adjective. Rest still stands.

-MLC, feeling the raw **power and fury** of Gaudere’s law

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2001, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/22 "2001-11-02T22:46:22Z")

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> I’m also concerned by CS , but more because I was hoping for an area of enlightened debate on the arts than the IMHO meets MPSIMS with a media spin…

CS was created while I was away, so I wasn’t around for itsinception. But when a poster told me over the phone about it, my first reaction was “Isn’t that IMHO is for?!”  
I still think every thread in CS can _easily_ fit in IMHO or MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/23 "2001-11-03T02:31:49Z")

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Weeellll. . .

Every thread in IMHO could fit quite nicely in MPSIMS. And every thread in CS could also fit quite nicely in MPSIMS. A whole boatload of Pit threads could fit nicely into MPSIMS, even with the swear words.  
I like having all my media needs met in one handy dandy forum. I wish people would stop posting media and entertainment questions in IMHO and MPSIMS. But that’s me. And I have it on good authority that I’m weird. Or that I’m concerning weird. Or whatever.

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**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/24 "2001-11-03T02:48:19Z")

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Wait, you guys are still arguing over the use of “concerning”? Stop picking about semantics or open a GD thread.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/25 "2001-11-03T02:51:40Z")

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Not me! I was only making a [sub]very weak[/sub] joke.

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**Author:** ![to\_catch\_a\_painted\_pony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@to\_catch\_a\_painted\_pony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/to_catch_a_painted_pony)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/26 "2001-11-04T03:43:02Z")

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Crybaby works for me too. (Why spend time “crafting” an answer, when the original complainer is just a common crybaby? And a wordy, tiresome one at that.)

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/27 "2001-11-04T07:08:14Z")

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well I’ll bite…

**to catch a painted pony,** I’d like to hear an explanation of your post. I’m quite curious as to why you have formed the opinion that you have.

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/28 "2001-11-04T12:30:34Z")

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Great, now he’s a wordy, tiresome, common crybaby that _bites_!  
😉

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**Author:** ![Niobium\_Knight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Niobium\_Knight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Niobium_Knight)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/29 "2001-11-04T13:05:20Z")

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i posted a thread about using dog shit as fertiliser yesterday and it disappeared!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/30 "2001-11-04T13:58:44Z")

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It was moved to MPSIMS. If I had been feeling kindly towards you it would have been moved to General Questions, but the fact that you started a thread about using dog shit as fertilizer in Cafe Society held me in silent amaze. You had been SAVING DOG SHIT FOR MONTHS?

Please read the forum descriptions. And wipe your feet.

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**Author:** ![lenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@lenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lenin)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/31 "2001-11-04T14:48:15Z")

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I agree with the idea that all the good Cafe Society threads are nothing more than media-basic IMHOs/MPSIMS. And there are those annoying “Help me with my homework” threads. I wasn’t around when Cafe Society went up, what was the original reason for it?

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/32 "2001-11-04T17:12:29Z")

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I would guess CS exists solely to take weight off of MPSIMS and IMHO, to be honest. No grand noble scheme for culturing the world, but rather someone noticed that enough questions were about literature, cinema, drama, television (how come there’s a fancy word for books, movies and plays and not for TV?), music and that sort of thing that they figured making them all into a single forum would decrease the MPSIMS/IMHO load. I like the forum myself; back in the MPSIMS only days, I used to skim a bunch of threads I wasn’t interested in about people’s goldfish or how they got promoted or “tell me I’m a good person” (\*) to get to the ones I was interested in. IMHO solved much of that by putting many of the more intellectual MPSIMS style threads in one place and CS distills it even further. These days, MPSIMS is the last forum I open (of the ones I read) and only if I have the time to spend on it.

(\*) I’m _not_ saying these threads shouldn’t exist or aren’t worthy, blah, blah, blah just that I’m not interested in reading them. The other forums give me a nice way of avoiding them in favor of things in my taste which makes everyone happy.

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**Author:** ![sleeptrainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@sleeptrainer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeptrainer)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/33 "2001-11-04T18:03:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \*  
> \*\*well I’ll bite…
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> **to catch a painted pony,** I’d like to hear an explanation of your post. I’m quite curious as to why you have formed the opinion that you have. \*\*

It isn’t obvious? You post a childish pout in the pit about how everyone should use the Cafe Society the way YOU think it was intended, not the way they think it was intended. Very self centered, I must say.  
Then, when someone says you “need perspective”, you demand of him/her "You have an infinite amount of time in which to respond to me, to create a witty retort or a stunning argument "

No. Nobody has infinite time for a crybaby. You wouldn’t get a witty retort. Crybabies get the simplified comment.  
“The Cafe Society isn’t here to please YOU, so get off the backs of people who are there talking to each other, without your approval, thank you very much!”

I hope that was simple enough for you to get it this time.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2001, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/34 "2001-11-04T18:30:59Z")

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well at least we’re back on topic.

I find this humorous, to say the least. I mean, if I had known I was going to be called a crybaby I’d have actually attempted to do something deserving of the name. Maybe “people who post in Cafe Society can suck my third nipple.”  
No, wait. That’s anger. I need crybaby.  
OK, how about “I just took a huge dump and it smelled better than these CS threads.”  
Hmmm…no. That has more of a superior feel to it than crybabishness. Plus it compliments my eating habits which a crybaby would never do.  
“Cafe Society? More like Cafe Suckciety.”  
Damnit, that one’s just stupid. But it’s really the closest I can get to crybaby so take it or leave it.

Why did I create this thread? Because I had a legitimate complaint and I wanted to see who shared it with me. Obviously not many. Alas.

**sleeptrainer** said:  
“You post a childish pout in the pit about how everyone should use the Cafe Society the way YOU think it was intended, not the way they think it was intended. Very self centered, I must say.”

Well, except for the “childish pout” part, I wholeheartedly concur! People should use that forum the way I think it was intended. I’ve never held myself out to be the Altruistic Man of the Year.  
I mean, I’m not sitting at home at night smashing baby pigs with a sledgehammer over the fact that the world isn’t going the way I invisioned it. But if I didn’t hold my opinion to be more important than a random passerbys, there would just be no point in living. I might as well curl up in a corner, huddled in the fetal position, muttering “everyone’s right, but I’m wrong, everyone’s good, but I’m bad, mommy doesn’t love me no more.”

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/35 "2001-11-05T14:39:08Z")

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So if we accept the premise that CS is either superfluous, second rate, misused and abused, what does that say about its moderator? 😉

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/36 "2001-11-05T14:40:56Z")

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_besides the fact the he undoubtedly previews and would never post "either … and …)_ ☹

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/37 "2001-11-05T14:53:59Z")

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I’m sorry, **Dinsdale** , but I can not stand idly by and do nothing while you cast these terrible aspersions on **Eutychus55**.

I’ve got a good mind to ring your doorbell and run.

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concern-over-cafe-society-trends/90613/38 "2001-11-05T14:54:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sleeptrainer \*  
> **It isn’t obvious? You post a childish pout in the pit about how everyone should use the Cafe Society the way YOU think it was intended, not the way they think it was intended. Very self centered, I must say.**

What’s the matter **sleeptrainer**. Is **Enderw24** not using the BBQ Pit the way YOU think it was intended?

:rolleyes:

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