# "Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679 "2010-07-14T17:34:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/1 "2010-07-14T17:34:07Z")
The helpful folks at a Utah based organization called “Concerned Citizens for the United States” helpfully sent a list of 1300 alleged undocumented immigrants to media outlets, and various state and federal law enforcement agencies. Nothing like a little “vigilante” justice even if it smacks of McCarthyism and even a kind of terrorism. [Salt Lake City Tribune](http://sltrib.com/sltrib/home/49922073-76/list-information-state-undocumented.html.csp) Especially when it turns out that the folks are not necessarily illegal in any sense of the word. > [@](#): > > Two women on the list who were contacted by The Salt Lake Tribune said they are in the country legally. One said she recently became a permanent legal resident. Not to mention that the information released probably was obtained illegally: > [@](#): > > Utah law makes it a misdemeanor to disclose government data not meant for public dissemination, though there are protections for whistle blowers. The list included names, addresses, birth dates, phone numbers, and 31 social security numbers. Also included: the names and dates of birth of 201 children, and the due dates of six pregnant women. Almost every surname is Latino. I understand the frustration with illegal immigration, although I also think it is one of those issues where it just makes people feel good to blame the “brown man” for all the ills of the world. But I find this kind of behaviour beyond the pale, what a bunch of scum to take this route. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/2 "2010-07-14T17:38:31Z")
Especially coming from a nation that was founded on unhindered immigration. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/3 "2010-07-14T18:06:21Z")
Well, a lot of it has also been about closing the door of opportunity behind you. ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/4 "2010-07-14T18:18:51Z")
I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker. It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/5 "2010-07-14T18:19:45Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Especially coming from a nation that was founded on unhindered immigration. Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, Unless they’re Mexican ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/6 "2010-07-14T18:20:12Z")
> [@Laudenum](#): > > I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker. > > It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities. Sorry, we got no freedom here. At least not for wetbacks. But hey, if you’re a European illegal, have a seat and let me get you a beer! ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/7 "2010-07-14T18:24:43Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Sorry, we got no freedom here. At least not for wetbacks. But hey, if you’re a European illegal, have a seat and let me get you a beer! Never said that Europeans should be given a free ride (although, tbh, at this point, freedom of movement between the US and EU would not be troublsome in the least). ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/8 "2010-07-14T18:25:22Z")
You can’t advertise yourself as The Land of Opportunity and not expect the less fortunate to want to come and get some. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/9 "2010-07-14T18:28:16Z")
> [@Laudenum](#): > > Never said that Europeans should be given a free ride (although, tbh, at this point, freedom of movement between the US and EU would not be troublsome in the least). We’ll swap you some of our drunken East European immigrants for some of your hard-working, low-pay expecting wetbacks. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/10 "2010-07-14T18:38:07Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > You can’t advertise yourself as The Land of Opportunity and not expect the less fortunate to want to come and get some. I think that’s a germane point in any discussion of illegal immigration. We don’t advertise our deep, abiding awesomeness - then everyone would want to live here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/11 "2010-07-14T18:40:09Z")
> [@Laudenum](#): > > I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker. > > It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities. The problem here is that at least some of the adults on the list and all of the children listed are not law-breakers and ‘Media Outlets’ are not relevant authorities. It is ironic, though, that the people who compiled the list may have become law-breakers in the process. i hope someone reports all of them to the relevant authorities. ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/12 "2010-07-14T18:58:40Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > We’ll swap you some of our drunken East European immigrants for some of your hard-working, low-pay expecting wetbacks. We actually have a lot of Eastern European immigrants, and they do work hard, and are not bad drunks. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/13 "2010-07-14T19:03:24Z")
Utah and Arizona sharing a common border…hmmmm…it’s spreading. Grand Canyon used to be a natural buffer. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/14 "2010-07-14T19:07:51Z")
> [@Laudenum](#): > > We actually have a lot of Eastern European immigrants, and they do work hard, and are not bad drunks. Don’t recall saying they all were. Do you want some of our whinging, white, _“The Paki’s have took all our jobs!”_, disaffected youths, then? ---
**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/15 "2010-07-14T19:09:20Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > We’ll swap you some of our drunken East European immigrants for some of your hard-working, low-pay expecting wetbacks. Dude, I’ll trade any day your drunken East European immigrants against our ““French”” car-burning, 400-word vocabulary, white-teenage-girl-raping, arab and black suburb youths. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/16 "2010-07-14T19:11:06Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Especially coming from a nation that was founded on unhindered immigration. What country are you talking about? The US was founded on liberty and freedom. For citizens. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/17 "2010-07-14T19:32:04Z")
> [@Khaki\_Campbell](#): > > Dude, I’ll trade any day your drunken East European immigrants against our ““French”” car-burning, 400-word vocabulary, white-teenage-girl-raping, arab and black suburb youths. I officially declare this thread “interesting”. ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/18 "2010-07-14T19:34:53Z")
> [@Khaki\_Campbell](#): > > Dude, I’ll trade any day your drunken East European immigrants against our ““French”” car-burning, 400-word vocabulary, white-teenage-girl-raping, arab and black suburb youths. Ah, you French? Yeah, you guys probably take the cake when it comes to bad ethnic minorities - it’s kind of your own fault though. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/19 "2010-07-14T19:35:45Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > What country are you talking about? The US was founded on liberty and freedom. For citizens. There were no cities when you fucking got there. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/20 "2010-07-14T19:44:41Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I officially declare this thread “interesting”. \*\* popping a little popcorn \*\* Pull up a chair, **Smeghead**. Should be fun. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679.md?page=2)