# "Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679 "2010-07-14T17:34:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/81 "2010-07-15T21:50:10Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I think you mean “wholesale genocidal displacement and conquest of the aborigines, and in some areas brutal enslavement of another ethnic group.” Oh come on, now. Let’s be fair. Sometimes we \*also \*enslaved the aborigines. ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/82 "2010-07-15T22:53:56Z")
> [@Eva\_Luna](#): > > Lots of people currently without legal status used to have legal status that expired, or for which they otherwise no longer qualify (student or employment visa, former spouse of someone in a legal category or of a U.S. citizen, etc.) The SS# doesn’t disappear just because the person is no longer authorized to work in the U.S. - it sticks with the person forever, and if they later legalize, their earnings will be credited to the same SS#. And similarly, Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITIN) granted by the IRS (usually to foreign spouses of US citizens or permanent residents) look exactly like social security numbers but are only used for paying federal income tax and a few other select administrative purposes. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/83 "2010-07-16T05:07:54Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Actually, your point would be fine, if anyone else was making it. > > My point is that you would never go into a thread praising the listmakers, and asking why people uncritically assume that the list is accurate. You only show up when \*conservatives \*call the cavalry. And that’s not exactly the spirit of unfettered skepticism. It would be nice if you would respond to **Bricker’s** lengthy post where he defends himself against your inaccurate charge. ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/84 "2010-07-16T06:01:38Z")
> [@Camus](#): > > And similarly, Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITIN) granted by the IRS (usually to foreign spouses of US citizens or permanent residents) look exactly like social security numbers but are only used for paying federal income tax and a few other select administrative purposes. Including quite everyday and necessary ones, like opening a bank account or (in some states) applying for a driver’s license. ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/85 "2010-07-16T11:43:14Z")
1300 mexicans? In Utah? Yep, I’m pretty sure that’s all of them. Utah is a very very white state. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/86 "2010-07-16T13:14:21Z")
The New York Times says the state says it is pretty obvious where the list came from and the police are looking at one state government department. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/87 "2010-07-16T14:11:19Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > The New York Times says the state says it is pretty obvious where the list came from and the police are looking at one state government department. I assume you mean this quote: > [@](#): > > Mr. Yapías, the former director of the state’s Office of Hispanic Affairs, said he was convinced that the list had come from the State Department of Workforce Services, an agency that combines resources for job seekers, employers and people seeking assistance like food stamps or Medicaid. The list includes information that other agencies might collect, he said, but Workforce Services’ application form includes a question that other information-laden agencies like the Division of Motor Vehicles, for example, would not ever ask: “Is anyone in your home currently pregnant?” ---
**Author:** ![Skeleton10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Skeleton10](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeleton10)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/88 "2010-07-16T17:48:47Z")
Hey folks, new here but don’t let that fool ya. I saw this on the news this morning and I am all for it, that and what the Governor of Arizona has done. Jump the border and get pregnant, kids born a US citizen and can’t be deported, mother is attached to child she get to stay too… Let it be known, I love my brown brothers, yes I’m a pinky, but the ones that are here taking our jobs Illegally need to be expelled, that goes for anyone here that shouldn’t be, ALL OF YOU!!! The one thing I’d like to ask is does anyone know how I can join the CC-US? ---
**Author:** ![Skeleton10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Skeleton10](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeleton10)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/89 "2010-07-16T17:50:20Z")
> [@EvilTOJ](#): > > 1300 mexicans? In Utah? Yep, I’m pretty sure that’s all of them. Utah is a very very white state. Dude…really! maybe you need to vacation in the Rockies this year and have a look for yourself, clear your head with that fresh mountain air :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/90 "2010-07-16T17:53:56Z")
> [@Skeleton10](#): > > Hey folks, new here but don’t let that fool ya. > > I saw this on the news this morning and I am all for it, that and what the Governor of Arizona has done. Jump the border and get pregnant, kids born a US citizen and can’t be deported, mother is attached to child she get to stay too.. > > Let it be known, I love my brown brothers, yes I’m a pinky, but the ones that are here taking our jobs Illegally need to be expelled, that goes for anyone here that shouldn’t be, ALL OF YOU!!! > > The one thing I’d like to ask is does anyone know how I can join the CC-US? Lose that “anchor baby” crap. Being the mother of a citizen will not keep you from being deported unless said citizen is over 18 and able to sponsor you. We are not fooled. ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/91 "2010-07-16T18:02:24Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Lose that “anchor baby” crap. Being the mother of a citizen will not keep you from being deported unless said citizen is over 18 and able to sponsor you. > > We are not fooled. [Over 21, actually,](http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=4c2515d27cf73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=4c2515d27cf73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD) but your point certainly stands. ---
**Author:** ![Skeleton10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Skeleton10](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeleton10)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/92 "2010-07-16T18:12:08Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Lose that “anchor baby” crap. Being the mother of a citizen will not keep you from being deported unless said citizen is over 18 and able to sponsor you. > > We are not fooled. So tell me, who’s being deported these days…who’s naive :eek: ---
**Author:** ![darkgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@darkgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/darkgoddess)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/93 "2010-07-16T18:35:55Z")
The entire argument is a red herring; the way to end “illegal” immigration is to go after individuals and businesses that hire the immigrants. These people come for economic stability, take that away and it’s all just a langue barrier and hostile treatment. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/94 "2010-07-16T18:36:17Z")
> [@Skeleton10](#): > > The one thing I’d like to ask is does anyone know how I can join the CC-US? Get a job with the Utah Department of Workforce Services. [- The Salt Lake Tribune](http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/49941046-90/information-state-law-list.html.csp) ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/95 "2010-07-16T18:38:19Z")
> [@Skeleton10](#): > > Hey folks, new here but don’t let that fool ya. I’ll thank you to walk your disgusting racist ass right back out the door it snuck in through. Or you can [go hang out with **magellan01**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=568488). You’d probably have fun tongue-bathing each others’ assholes while you jack off to the idea of all the Scary Brown People being shipped back Where They Came From, Constitution be damned. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/96 "2010-07-16T19:17:47Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I’ll thank you to walk your disgusting racist ass right back out the door it snuck in through. > > Or you can [go hang out with **magellan01**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=568488). You’d probably have fun tongue-bathing each others’ assholes while you jack off to the idea of all the Scary Brown People being shipped back Where They Came From, Constitution be damned. What’s great about a post like this is that you don’t have to check to see if we’re in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Skeleton10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Skeleton10](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeleton10)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/97 "2010-07-16T19:21:01Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I’ll thank you to walk your disgusting racist ass right back out the door it snuck in through. > > Or you can [go hang out with **magellan01**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=568488). You’d probably have fun tongue-bathing each others’ assholes while you jack off to the idea of all the Scary Brown People being shipped back Where They Came From, Constitution be damned. Dude, that came from your mind, what ya think’n bout? Can you look thru a one inch water pipe with both eyes? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/98 "2010-07-16T19:23:02Z")
> [@Skeleton10](#): > > So tell me, who’s being deported these days…who’s naive :eek: Too bad we can’t deport people for being stupid. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/99 "2010-07-16T19:26:55Z")
> [@Skeleton10](#): > > Can you look thru a one inch water pipe with both eyes? Yes. It’s a congenital condition. I don’t like to discuss it. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679/100 "2010-07-16T19:29:02Z")
> [@Skeleton10](#): > > Can you look thru a one inch water pipe with both eyes? These kids, and their damn drug slang and ghetto talk. This must be something to do with that sharia law I keep hearing about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerned-citizens-of-the-united-states-looking-out-for-our-interests/546679.md?page=6)