# Concerning Mind Control & Foil Hats

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 15, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568 "2004-06-15T23:35:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/21 "2004-06-16T19:19:17Z")

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> [@bughunter](#):
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> I believe the Orbital Mind Control Laser was an invention of R. U. Sirius, in his definitive treatise, [Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess And What I Did To Her When I Found Her](http://www.fnord.org/html/principia.html).
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> And if you haven’t come across these in your reasearch, then you haven’t done enough.

Yes, but I’ve done enough research to know that RU Sirius had nothing to do with the Principia Discordia. You may actually want to read the byline someday.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/22 "2004-06-17T01:48:11Z")

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Hey, they don’t even need electrodes anymore:

[Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS)](http://www.biomag.hus.fi/tms/)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/23 "2004-06-17T02:39:03Z")

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Quoth **Princhester** :

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> OMG, Inigo can see the

Well, don’t keep us in suspense. What exactly can he see? Finish the sentence!

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/24 "2004-06-17T03:53:21Z")

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Fnord

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**Author:** ![antechinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@antechinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antechinus)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/25 "2004-06-17T13:03:57Z")

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Yeah , cant you read.

Using transcranial magnetic stimulation an alien abduction effect can be stimulated IIRC. The person can be overcome with a feeling of dread, feel like they are being draged down the bed and probed by space men. I am serious. Will try and find a cite.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/26 "2004-06-17T15:18:12Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Fnord

I’m beginning to understand…

> [@antechinus](#):
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> overcome with a feeling of dread

Think Russians & Woodpeckers. I’ll be right back.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/27 "2004-06-17T15:31:05Z")

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Honestly, [this](http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s63.htm) was not foremost in my mind when I originally posted:

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> Suffice it to say that phase-locked ELF modulation signals ot 10 Hz and less are often detected on multiple Woodpecker frequencies simultaneously. In a target area, this modulation – if sufficiently stronger than the Schumann resonance of the earth’s magnetic field – will entrain a percentage of the brains into “forced entrainment.” In that case, these human brains are “synchronized” to the Woodpecker signals so that multiple coherent frequencies are phase-locked into them. That is, multiple coherent EM channels directly into these entrained brains now exist. At that point, Fourier expansions may be used to attack specific portions of the brain geometrically.
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> In addition, scalar EM[electromagnetic] disease patterns can be modulated upon the carriers, again with Fourier expansions. Specific biological effects can be induced in the entrained populace at will, limited only by the state of the art of the Soviet technology used to attack them. Possible induced effects include instantaneous death, heart seizure, severe emotional disruption, loss of control of internal functions, diseases, disabling of the immune system, and even implantation of thoughts, emotions, and ideas which are interpreted by the targeted subjects as their own.

Naturally, I’ve heard of the Woodpecker transmitters before, but their use in mind control has, as far as I know, remained theoretical among conspircists. In other words, I’m not sure this example passes my initial caveat of “non-fiction.”

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/28 "2004-06-17T15:33:46Z")

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Tin foil or aluminum foil hats do NOT block mind control rays.  
On the contrary, they convert you into an antenna and facilitate reception!  
:eek:

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/29 "2004-06-17T15:38:11Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> In other words, I’m not sure this example passes my initial caveat of “non-fiction.”

Yeah, that bit you quoted is complete bullshit. For one thing there’s no such thing as “ELF modulation”, for another, Fourier transformations are not properties of radio waves, but rather a mathematical method of analyzing complex waveforms. This phrase particulary kills me: “multiple coherent frequencies are phase-locked into them.” How you phase-lock two _different_ frequencies is beyond me. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![bughunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@bughunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bughunter)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/30 "2004-06-17T20:57:38Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> How you phase-lock two _different_ frequencies is beyond me.

Easy, if they’re harmonics.

And if they’re all odd harmonics, you can add 'em up and get a square wave.

Further, blockheads are ideal absorbers of multiple coherent square waves.

(OK, I made the last one up…)

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**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/31 "2004-06-17T23:45:25Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> …Naturally, I’ve heard of the Woodpecker transmitters before, but their use in mind control has, as far as I know, remained theoretical among conspircists.

This struck me as a particularly odd statement. Which is faster: the blink of an eye or the transfomation of theory into hard-boiled fact for a conspiracist?

Vlad/Igor

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/32 "2004-06-18T04:02:36Z")

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Vlad/Igor? Whassup with that? Couldn’t make up your mind as to who you are? Spilt personality? Do you impale while limping and lisping?

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**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concerning-mind-control-foil-hats/250568/33 "2004-06-18T13:55:38Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Vlad/Igor? Whassup with that? Couldn’t make up your mind as to who you are? Spilt personality? Do you impale while limping and lisping?

I am a medical technologist, with seven years experience in hospital labs. One of the things I did, and still do, is draw blood, prompting the lame joke over and over:“Here comes the vampire!” Hence the name Vlad. For the past three years, I have been working in medical research in the Dept. of Pathology as a research assistant, hence the name Igor. Both adequately describe my job(s) over the past ten years, hence the “/”.

Anything else?

Vlad/Igor

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