# Concurrent Doper Diplomacy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 20, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876 "2004-11-20T22:48:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/41 "2004-12-14T05:54:19Z")

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I’m flexible, I’ll figure out an exact date after I have everyone’s country preferences.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/42 "2004-12-14T13:59:12Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> **Munch** , if you’re the only newb in this game, and if it’s okay with the other players, I could “mentor” you for the first couple of rounds.
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> Oh, and regardless, if you could post links to results here every so often so that I can razz **Wikkit** it would be much appreciated. 😃

Sweet, that would be fantastic, **Shibb**. I’ll review the sites and rulebook and get back to you by the end of the week.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/43 "2004-12-14T15:09:59Z")

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Country preferences sent.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/44 "2004-12-14T17:04:56Z")

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Heck, Munch, I’ll mentor you too.

Hey, a new player needs all the mentoring he can get.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/45 "2004-12-14T17:09:46Z")

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Preferences sent.

My email is darryl\_shannon at yahoo dot com.

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**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/46 "2004-12-14T17:55:57Z")

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Preferences sent too…email me at ajgarz at hotmail dot com or at ajgarz28 at yahoo dot com

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/47 "2004-12-14T18:20:30Z")

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I just need preferences from Munch and Hugh Jass.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/48 "2004-12-14T22:29:53Z")

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Munch - the outer countries (England, France, Russia, Turkey) are easier places for a newbie to survive. Even experienced players tend to have a harder time with the inner countries (Austria, Germany, Italy). Just a word for choosing your country preferences, which is worth every penny you paid for it.

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**Author:** ![BoringDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@BoringDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoringDad)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/49 "2004-12-14T22:43:11Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Munch - the outer countries (England, France, Russia, Turkey) are easier places for a newbie to survive. Even experienced players tend to have a harder time with the inner countries (Austria, Germany, Italy).

And France and Russia stand good chances to not only survive but to win. England and Turkey are harder to win with.

E-mail me at GeneralBoringDad at yahoo dot com.

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**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2004, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/50 "2004-12-15T00:38:00Z")

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You can email me at pittpanther66 at yahoo dot com

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/51 "2004-12-15T15:06:54Z")

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Thanks for all the offers of help, all. I’ve submitted my preferences, and should be stopping by the game shop tonight to start delving. I really appreciate all the newbie help.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/52 "2004-12-15T17:40:17Z")

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OK, i have all the preferences. Over the next couple of days I’ll assign countries and get a web page up. As i see it, since we’re not starting 'til next year, there’s no immediate rush, I’m not gonna kill myself to get it up today.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/53 "2004-12-16T01:55:15Z")

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Country assignments:

RTFirefly - Austria  
Munch - Turkey  
Lemur866 - France  
BoringDad - Germany  
Flood - England  
CapnPitt - Russia  
Hugh Jass - Italy

Spring 1901 orders will be due sometime the first week of January. I’ll get around to making the webpage shortly, but feel free to start negotiating. Unless you notify me otherwise, I’ll use the email adresses you sent your preferences from.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/54 "2004-12-16T02:35:33Z")

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Can you post those in hashed form here?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/55 "2004-12-16T02:48:16Z")

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OK, it’s the 15th of December. Like I’ve said, I’m not going to engage in diplomacy until the beginning of January. But others are. That really doesn’t work.

Since countries have been announced, I can’t see an easy fix, either. So please try to find a replacement for me.

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**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/56 "2004-12-16T22:40:19Z")

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Maybe I’m just dense, but it looks like we’re one short again

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/57 "2004-12-17T00:47:44Z")

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> [@flood](#):
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> Maybe I’m just dense, but it looks like we’re one short again

Yea, I guess so. Anyone else want to play?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/58 "2004-12-17T00:48:44Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> Yea, I guess so. Anyone else want to play?

I think that **Omniscient** might be available soon. Of course he knew that.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/59 "2004-12-17T00:54:07Z")

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If you’re not going to have thu first deadline until January, why not just wait until January to announce new country assignments?

My game didn’t start well. I’m either going to be eliminated early (and thus available again soon) or am going to have the coolest move ever next turn.

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**Author:** ![BoringDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@BoringDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoringDad)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/60 "2004-12-17T02:02:11Z")

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> [@Wikkit](#):
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> If you’re not going to have the first deadline until January, why not just wait until January to announce new country assignments?

I’d be OK with reassigning closer to the start date. Doesn’t make any sense to spend two weeks looking for a new player.

However, my personal experience is that really very little of substance can be negotiated before the first move anyway. **RTFirefly** , as long as we leave enough time after the first of the year for you to make opening overtures and responses to all players, do you still think that you’ll be at a disadvantage?

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