# Concurrent Doper Diplomacy **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 20, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876 "2004-11-20T22:48:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/121 "2005-01-27T02:56:16Z")
[Webpage is up!](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/dipmodern/Concurrency.html) Spring orders due Tuesday, Feb 1 ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/122 "2005-01-27T03:30:46Z")
Woot, I named another Dip game. Good luck, everyone. ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/123 "2005-01-27T13:05:45Z")
Woohoo! Nice web page **Weirddave** - it has wavy flags and everything! I was a bit undecided about joining an email Diplomacy game. Now I am so pleased I did. Even if everything goes tits up, I will have enjoyed the email banter that has already developed. Thanks again for running it for us. And to you **Wikkit** for starting the thread! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/124 "2005-01-28T16:56:37Z")
Just as a note- I’ll be out of town this weekend, so don’t send anything that demands a reply by Sunday. I’ll be back on Monday, and ready to write and scheme. Wait, did I say ‘scheme’? I meant ‘plan for a peaceful co-existence with all neighbors.’ And I agree with Courgette- the banter has been marvelous. Though the defeaning silence from certain areas of the board… ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/125 "2005-02-01T21:39:48Z")
The suspense is killing me! ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/126 "2005-02-02T03:37:27Z")
Results can be found [here](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/dipmodern/Concurrency.html), click the Spring 01 box in the “Game History” table on the right hand side of the page. ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/127 "2005-02-02T05:04:06Z")
It does not work for me. It says somthing about contacting the web master or somesuch. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/128 "2005-02-02T06:07:44Z")
> [@InvidiousCourgette](#): > > It does not work for me. It says somthing about contacting the web master or somesuch. Well, it works for me on 2 different computers with 3 different browsers, so I dunno what to tell ya. Anyone else having a problem? ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/129 "2005-02-02T08:02:11Z")
This is what I get when I click on Spring 01: > [@](#): > > Please check back when dipmodern has time to edit his site I hope it is not just me. ::crosses fingers:: ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/130 "2005-02-02T12:06:00Z")
> [@InvidiousCourgette](#): > > This is what I get when I click on Spring 01: > > I hope it is not just me. ::crosses fingers:: Works for me. Interesting set of moves. You bounced with France in Burgundy, took Denmark and moved A Berlin to Kiel successfully. Try refreshing the page it might help. (You are Germany, right?) ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/131 "2005-02-02T12:53:56Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Works for me. Interesting set of moves. You bounced with France in Burgundy, took Denmark and moved A Berlin to Kiel successfully. Try refreshing the page it might help. (You are Germany, right?) Yep, Germany. That is weird. I tried refreshing and everything. Same message. Then I tried Firefox, and it worked. Then I tried IE again, and now it too is working. Huh? Oh well, it is all good. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/132 "2005-02-02T13:04:08Z")
> [@InvidiousCourgette](#): > > Yep, Germany. That is weird. I tried refreshing and everything. Same message. Then I tried Firefox, and it worked. Then I tried IE again, and now it too is working. Huh? Oh well, it is all good. Oh yeah, I mostly use Mozilla, only IE when I have to for something. I hadn’t thought of that. Was this your first result ever? Excited? Invigorated? Paranoid? 🙂 Interesting start there with France, England and Germany. Austria and Italy don’t look to be friends anytime soon, but at least neither has major early threats from anywhere else. Perhaps they’ll bludgeon each other over the head while everyone else progresses? Turkey and Russia a little too early to tell. **Dave** , I like that you show both the orders and results on your map. Very nice touch. You’ve always been one for the details. ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/133 "2005-02-02T22:41:10Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Was this your first result ever? Excited? Invigorated? Paranoid? 🙂 Heh. I was paranoid beforehand. Then I was quietly content. Now I am paranoid again. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/134 "2005-02-02T22:45:14Z")
> [@InvidiousCourgette](#): > > Heh. I was paranoid beforehand. Then I was quietly content. Now I am paranoid again. 🙂 You realize that this is exactly as it’s supposed to be, correct? It’s not paranoia when they **are** out to get you. ---
**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2005, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/135 "2005-02-02T23:12:43Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > You realize that this is exactly as it’s supposed to be, correct? I guess, yeah :). It is so cool that the game has been so successful, and seems to work so well, despite being based on a real map of Europe. It would seem that a topologically symmetrical map would be the obvious board, but that would detract from the specific strategies that each country can adopt and the game variety that ensues. It is amazing that each country has a good (if not even) chance of winning despite the disparate start positions. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/136 "2005-02-03T00:28:10Z")
There are variant maps where each starting power is in a topologically equivalent postition, but most maps are made to look more ‘real’. However, note that exactly where you place the province borders can change things a great deal, especially the sea boundaries. Some countries in the standard map have better positions, others have worse, some have neutral centers easily available, others don’t. Like Italy. England and Turkey are “safe” positions, but are harder to expand from. Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2005, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/137 "2005-02-03T08:52:04Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > **Dave** , I like that you show both the orders and results on your map. Very nice touch. You’ve always been one for the details. Danke. (Sorry, I’m playing Germany in the World Masters tournament. :D) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/138 "2005-02-04T20:01:47Z")
So… are we getting results today? (Quitting smoking and waiting for Diplomacy results are _not_ two matters than go hand in hand.) ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/139 "2005-02-04T21:59:40Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > Danke. (Sorry, I’m playing Germany in the World Masters tournament. :D) Bitte. Und so weiter. Wie geht’s dir im Weltmeisterturnier? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876/140 "2005-02-04T23:24:00Z")
I am waiting for one final set of orders, then I’ll adjudicate. Emails have been dispatched. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/concurrent-doper-diplomacy/275876.md?page=8)