# Condoleeza Rice's face is painful to look at **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 19, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629 "2005-01-19T23:02:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/21 "2005-01-20T00:46:14Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Interesting that you’re the first person to bring that up. I just think that it’s really unfair that professional women, especially, get criticized for lack of physical attractiveness, and that that’s used as a slam against them. It’s being done now in this thread with Condi, it was done against Janet Reno, it was done against Hillary Clinton. I just think that it’s unfair. There’s a lot to criticize her about, if you’re so inclined, from her part in the Iraq weapons thing to whether her not her Cold War education and mentality are appropriate in a post-Cold War world. But criticizing her because she has a gap between her teeth is just mean. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/22 "2005-01-20T00:47:19Z")
yeeeesh! It’s the left-wing counterparts to Chevy57SS, John John, and Sentinel out to make nasty comments about the appearances of certain women. I think you all need to link to your own photos so we can see how beautiful you look. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/23 "2005-01-20T00:57:40Z")
I’d gladly, without hesitation, pit my looks against Condi’s any day of the week. I think though that people should lighten up, we’re just poking some fun at her. ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/24 "2005-01-20T00:58:27Z")
She looks like Olive Oyl. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/25 "2005-01-20T00:59:22Z")
I saw Garcelle Beauvais on a rerun this morning and thought, “If Condi Rice were pretty, she’d look like Garcelle Beauvais.” I don’t know exactly what the connection is between the two, but there was something there. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/26 "2005-01-20T01:01:04Z")
She isn’t so horribly ugly, it’s just that she bears an uncanny resemblance to Chucky from the **Child’s Play** movies. Look and tell me I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/27 "2005-01-20T01:10:38Z")
I’m sure I started a thread on Condi’s hair a couple nof years ago. But what struck me today watching her is her subtle scowl which slowly but deliberately dissolves into a smile and back. most people change expressions much more quickly. And while she undergoes that careful change of mood, her eyes never waiver. She’s 100% on duty. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/28 "2005-01-20T01:13:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > That hair cut makes her look seriously elderly. Is there a name for that hairstyle? It got a definite 60s-ish look about it. Not 60-yrs-old, 1960s. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/29 "2005-01-20T01:23:33Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Is there a name for that hairstyle? It got a definite 60s-ish look about it. Not 60-yrs-old, 1960s. Neil Steinberg in today’s Chicago Sun-Times called it a Lucy van Pelt hairstyle. As much as I hate Condi and Bushco, this OP is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/30 "2005-01-20T01:25:50Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > I’m sure I started a thread on Condi’s hair a couple nof years ago. Condi’s looks have gotten considerable pittage. This [separated at birth](http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/canderson/2004/03/26) link (cadged from another thread) pretty much sums them up. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/31 "2005-01-20T01:30:21Z")
I think Condi’s cute, as well. But she would be much more cute if she were to adopt a more pleasing hairstyle and a more relaxed, less intense expression (read scowl), IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/32 "2005-01-20T01:34:12Z")
I think she’s plain to pretty. The hair and gap don’t help but _that scowl_ is her undoing. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/33 "2005-01-20T01:36:33Z")
I think Lucy Van Pelt hits it perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/34 "2005-01-20T01:39:09Z")
For a republican I don’t find her all that unattractive. Michael Winner. Now there’s a person who should never be seen by human eyes. That mobile turd repulses me. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/35 "2005-01-20T03:08:10Z")
> [@Captain Amazing](#): > > I just think that it’s really unfair that professional women, especially, get criticized for lack of physical attractiveness, and that that’s used as a slam against them. It’s being done now in this thread with Condi, it was done against Janet Reno, it was done against Hillary Clinton. I just think that it’s unfair. There’s a lot to criticize her about, if you’re so inclined, from her part in the Iraq weapons thing to whether her not her Cold War education and mentality are appropriate in a post-Cold War world. But criticizing her because she has a gap between her teeth is just mean. Right, cause people never make fun of famous males and how they look. But Bush and Kerry were made fun of because of the way they look. This is no different. > [@pulykamell](#): > > Neil Steinberg in today’s Chicago Sun-Times called it a Lucy van Pelt hairstyle. > > As much as I hate Condi and Bushco, this OP is stupid. If it is so stupid then why did you bother to respond. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/36 "2005-01-20T03:37:51Z")
I think there are better reasons to be critical of Rice than her physical attractiveness. Look at Mt. Rushmore. Are any of those guys Brad Pitt? I don’t care for Ms. Rice. I think she’s too much of a water carrier for Bush and I’d rather not see her become SoS but I don’t think her looks need to be brought into it. I didn’t like it when ugly jokes were made about Madeline Albright or Janet Reno and I don’t like it when it’s done to Condie Rice. I do think there’s an undercurrent of sexism in the way this standard gets applied to women but not to men (I’m not accusing the OP of having a sexist motive for this thread, I’m just speaking in general terms about this kind of double standard). But if we _are_ going to talk about ugly we have to talk about Newt “the Newt” Gingrich. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/37 "2005-01-20T03:39:24Z")
Lucy Van Pelt is it! I have watched Condi over the past months, and I have to say that while she smiles and frowns and looks “concernec”–her eyes are dead. They do not light up with her smile, nor do they darken with her scowl (which is quite cartoonish). Methinks it’s all an act. Maybe she’s a Fembot? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/38 "2005-01-20T03:43:43Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Right, cause people never make fun of famous males and how they look. But Bush and Kerry were made fun of because of the way they look. This is no different. > > If it is so stupid then why did you bother to respond. Hey, fucko, did you not notice my first sentence, which was my meaningful contribution to the discussion? ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/39 "2005-01-20T03:50:24Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Hey, fucko, did you not notice my first sentence, which was my meaningful contribution to the discussion? If by meaningful you mean worthless. If think then tthread is stupid, then you can get out, ok asshole? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629/40 "2005-01-20T04:01:15Z")
So worthless that two people used the information I provided in their replies. Yep, worthless indeed. :rolleyes: Well, it took nearly 3,500 posts to be finally called an asshole, and I am deeply honored. 🙂 See you in another thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleeza-rices-face-is-painful-to-look-at/285629.md?page=3)