# Condoleezza Rice for VP with Romney? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 13, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813 "2012-05-13T23:16:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/1 "2012-05-13T23:16:15Z")
I can’t think of anyone with better credentials for VP. She’s so well respected and would be a huge asset for Romney. Condi was the only positive thing I ever saw in the Bush administration. The big question is… Can they pry her out of Stanford? Is she rested and ready to get back in the fray? > [@](#): > > Rice would be a political game changer for the 2012 race. > [@](#): > > A CNN/ORC poll from last week asked Republicans and Republican-leaning independents to pick their preference for Romney’s running mate. At the top was a surprise choice: Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. She attracted 26 percent support. Rick Santorum won second place with 21 percent support. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio were tied for third place with 14 percent each. At the meeting of state GOP chairmen in Arizona last week half of them told a National Journal reporter they wanted Romney to pick Rice. > **[Why Condoleezza Rice could change everything for Romney](https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/why-condoleezza-rice-could-change-everything-for-romney)** > > The biggest move Mitt Romney can make to change his image is via an eye-catching pick for the number two slot on the presidential ticket. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/2 "2012-05-13T23:19:13Z")
She’s a lesbian. Like with Janet Reno, nobody talked about it but everybody knew. That’s fine for a Cabinet post, but a Veep candidate comes under a whole different wattage of spotlight. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/3 "2012-05-13T23:26:29Z")
> [@BG](#): > > She’s a lesbian. You don’t know that. She’s not a social conservative. Romney needs to pick a social conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/4 "2012-05-13T23:37:52Z")
Ah. One or two more reasons why McCain didn’t pick her as his running mate, in addition to her being taller than he is. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/5 "2012-05-13T23:44:51Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You don’t know that. It ain’t enough not to know it, for GOP-nomination purposes they would have to know the contrary for sure. And nobody does. As a “confirmed bachelor” who is not in any sense gay or bi, I know what people will say of the middle-aged-and-unmarried. Fair or unfair, that’s how it is. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/6 "2012-05-13T23:50:17Z")
I’m pretty sure she’s pro-choice. That’s not going to fly with the Republican base. ---
**Author:** ![independentDemocrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ba9def/32.png) [@independentDemocrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/independentDemocrat)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/7 "2012-05-13T23:54:05Z")
Condi is politically garbage and a coward… but dang she is hot. I met her a couple times and was stunned by her beauty. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/8 "2012-05-14T00:00:52Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > She’s not a social conservative. Romney needs to pick a social conservative. And, she also has a certain immutable characteristic which would bar even Alan Keyes from serious consideration, here, and it has nothing to do with sexual orientation. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/9 "2012-05-14T00:19:30Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > She’s a lesbian. Like with Janet Reno, nobody talked about it but everybody knew. That’s fine for a Cabinet post, but a Veep candidate comes under a whole different wattage of spotlight. Will you stop with the fucking gay-baiting? You dishonor everything you say you stand for concerning equality when you do that. You’re just as bad as that Focus on the Family assholes who forced Romney to drop Grenell when you show that you can only see the demographics. I am a Democrat, and more than a talker. And I don’t want you on my side when you say things like that. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/10 "2012-05-14T00:20:31Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Will you stop with the fucking gay-baiting? You dishonor everything you say you stand for concerning equality when you do that. You’re just as bad as that Focus on the Family assholes who forced Romney to drop Grenell when you show that you can only see the demographics. > > I am a Democrat, and more than a talker. And I don’t want you on my side when you say things like that. I say only that Condi Rice, for that reason alone (and even if she were white and socially conservative), will never make an acceptable **Republican** Veep-nominee. And I’m right, and you know I’m right. I do not express approval of that undeniable situation. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/11 "2012-05-14T00:33:46Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Ah. One or two more reasons why McCain didn’t pick her as his running mate, in addition to her being taller than he is. She also stopped just short of endorsing Obama. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/12 "2012-05-14T00:58:41Z")
> [@independentDemocrat](#): > > Condi is politically garbage and a coward… but dang she is hot. I met her a couple times and was stunned by her beauty. Condi is hot? I’d say she’s nice-looking and/or kind of pretty, but I wouldn’t go as far as calling her hot. I’ve never seen her in person or up close though. I was in the same building with her once, during a Notre Dame/Stanford football game at ND Stadium. There were only 80,000 other people there though so you can see how I missed her. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/13 "2012-05-14T01:57:50Z")
Here pathetic testimony in front of the 9-11 Commission is enough to disqualify her from any high office. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/14 "2012-05-14T03:08:32Z")
If Republicans want to stay relevant, they need to embrace all races and even the Gay rights movement. Condi as a VP nominee would be a very good first step. Whether they will do it in this election is questionable. The Tea Party has a lot of moderate Republicans looking for cover. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/15 "2012-05-14T03:16:54Z")
Condi brings Bush baggage. I think Condi has a lot of things going for her, but whether it’s enough to overcome baggage is the political math that needs to be done. I think its going to be Rand Paul. It makes too much sense. Whoever it is, if the Romney campaign senses that its slipping, they’ll push for a wild haymaker pick. If they think they can plod along and stay safe, they will. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/16 "2012-05-14T03:23:34Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > Condi brings Bush baggage. I think Condi has a lot of things going for her, but whether it’s enough to overcome baggage is the political math that needs to be done. > > I think its going to be Rand Paul. It makes too much sense. > > Whoever it is, if the Romney campaign senses that its slipping, they’ll push for a wild haymaker pick. If they think they can plod along and stay safe, they will. I disagree with that. Rand Paul is even crazier than his dad. Picking him would just cement the notion that Romney has let himself become a tool of the extreme right. Extremism doesn’t win general elections. The more likely candidate is Rubio. Get some Hispanic vote and hope to swing Florida, which again, could determine the outcome of the election. ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/17 "2012-05-14T04:02:15Z")
Wow, straight to calling her a lesbian and commenting on her physical appearance. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/18 "2012-05-14T04:08:40Z")
> [@emcee2k](#): > > Wow, straight to calling her a lesbian and commenting on her physical appearance. Sort of like calling Palin a “nutjob” and commenting on her physical appearance. Of course, in fairness, the standard-bearer of the right, Limbaugh, would never call a woman a “slut” or comment on her physical appearance (Hillary and Chelsea). ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/19 "2012-05-14T04:16:36Z")
I agree that she’s not socially conservative enough and that her association with the Bush administration will probably keep her from getting picked. I disagree with the obvious gaybaiting. I think it’s going to be, if not John Thune, somebody like him. A legislator with solid conservative credentials without much in the way of controversy or personal scandal. The Republicans got burned with Sarah Palin last time, partly because they focused on trying to pick a game changing, “interesting” candidate that would shake stuff up for the McCain campaign. So I think the message is going to be this year, “Look, you had four years of ‘celebrity’ Obama, and look what happened. But now the adults are in the room. We’re boring, but we know how to create jobs and get government off your back.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/20 "2012-05-14T05:53:00Z")
> [@](#): > > So I think the message is going to be this year, “Look, you had four years of ‘celebrity’ Obama, and look what happened. But now the adults are in the room. We’re boring, but we know how to create jobs and get government off your back.” Except without so much emphasis on “look what happened”, but rather “look what sort of might have happened but didn’t actually, if you squint at it”. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813.md?page=2)