# Condoleezza Rice for VP with Romney? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 13, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813 "2012-05-13T23:16:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/21 "2012-05-14T06:03:19Z")
I don’t think they’re going to actually say that. Their message isn’t going to be, “The economy isn’t terrible, but we’re going to pretend it is.” Their message is going to be “The economy is bad and Obama hasn’t been able to fix it. We will.” The fact that you don’t like their characterization doesn’t mean they won’t claim it. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/22 "2012-05-14T06:20:46Z")
Saw Condi Rice on Piers Morgan’s show a few months ago. Morgan kept after her as to whether she might run for president, and, after several tactful declinations regarding her accomplishments and how they were fulfilling enough and she had no further interest in public office, finally cut him off with a firm “That’s a _no_, Piers!”. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/23 "2012-05-14T08:28:21Z")
Why does anyone think she would give up a tenure track position at Stanford? To be Veep with Mittens? No Effing Way. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/24 "2012-05-14T09:49:05Z")
No way is this going to happen. Why on earth would Romney want to associate himself with Bush’s foreign policy? Why would Romney want to invite comparisons to McCain’s VP choice by picking another woman? Why would Romney want to remind black voters that the Democrats nominated a black candidate for the Presidency while the Republicans only let them ride the back of the bus? Why would Romney want to throw away the racist vote? And regardless of whether or not Rice is actually gay, the rumors are out there so Romney would also be throwing away the homophobe vote. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/25 "2012-05-14T09:53:41Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > she would give up a tenure track position at Stanford? I think she’s already got tenure. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/26 "2012-05-14T09:53:46Z")
> [@independentDemocrat](#): > > Condi is politically garbage and a coward… but dang she is hot. I met her a couple times and was stunned by her beauty. Moammar, is that you? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/27 "2012-05-14T10:18:11Z")
I’m rather disappointed that this thread leapt straight to “she’s a black lesbian” first as the reason she won’t be Veep. I think the “she has absolutely no reason to want the job, even if Mitt was a shoo-in to win” argument holds a lot more sway. See also: General Petraeus. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/28 "2012-05-14T11:47:17Z")
> [@Captain Amazing](#): > > We’re boring, but we know how to create jobs and get government off your back. The former I agree with for moderate Mitt, though if he lets the Libertarian camp influence his policy, he’d see the boon of necessary unemployment. The latter, definitely not. He advocates increasing government surveillance and opposed describing waterboarding as torture. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/29 "2012-05-14T14:25:44Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > I disagree with that. Rand Paul is even crazier than his dad. Picking him would just cement the notion that Romney has let himself become a tool of the extreme right. Extremism doesn’t win general elections. > > The more likely candidate is Rubio. Get some Hispanic vote and hope to swing Florida, which again, could determine the outcome of the election. Ron’s retiring, and it makes sense for his apparatus to go to his son. The only enthusiasm for any Republican candidate is over Ron Paul, and the only young people coming into the party in any number comes from Dr. Paul. Rubio’s making the rounds and trying out for the job, clearly, but Rubio and Rand Paul have the same amount of federal legislation experience. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/30 "2012-05-14T14:35:56Z")
Condi has said many times that she has zero interest in the job and I believe her. She loves being an academic, still makes loads of money giving speaches and has a comfortable life. No way will she give that up. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/31 "2012-05-14T14:39:46Z")
She has \*got \*to lose her “Peggy/Powerpuff Girls” do, though. [http://www.blogcdn.com/main.stylelist.com/media/2010/10/peggy-590-khz10410.jpg](http://www.blogcdn.com/main.stylelist.com/media/2010/10/peggy-590-khz10410.jpg) [![](http://images.wikia.com/powerpuff/images/3/32/Buttercup-is-on-top-powerpuff-girls-24270693-299-320.jpg) ](http://images.wikia.com/powerpuff/images/3/32/Buttercup-is-on-top-powerpuff-girls-24270693-299-320.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/32 "2012-05-14T14:45:40Z")
Hasn’t she said a bunch of times how much she’d love the job of NFL commissioner? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/33 "2012-05-14T14:57:14Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > Ron’s retiring, and it makes sense for his apparatus to go to his son. The only enthusiasm for any Republican candidate is over Ron Paul, and the only young people coming into the party in any number comes from Dr. Paul. Rubio’s making the rounds and trying out for the job, clearly, but Rubio and Rand Paul have the same amount of federal legislation experience. You remember all the threads asking why Gingrich was staying in the race when his campaign was so obviously hopeless? Well, Gingrich’s campaign was significantly stronger than Paul’s. I don’t see how you can claim that there’s any big enthusiasm for Paul when he’s doing so poorly that nobody’s even bothering to suggest he drop out of the race. He’s a non-factor. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/34 "2012-05-14T14:59:49Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Condi has said many times that she has zero interest in the job and I believe her. She loves being an academic, still makes loads of money giving speaches and has a comfortable life. No way will she give that up. On the plus side, if she ran with Romney she wouldn’t have to give it up. She’d really only have to take a six month sabbatical and then she could go back to academics. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/35 "2012-05-14T15:05:09Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Condi has said many times that she has zero interest in the job and I believe her. She loves being an academic, still makes loads of money giving speaches and has a comfortable life. No way will she give that up. Yeah, this too. She has to want it, and I’m pretty sure she doesn’t. SecState is a better job than VP, and she’s already done that. She’s an odd candidate because she is full of pluses and minuses. But in the end, they don’t really matter because I don’t believe she would accept. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/36 "2012-05-14T15:11:37Z")
I don’t care about her appearance, orientation, or whether she and Bush did the double nasty. She is by all accounts extraordinarily bright. But what did she accomplish as Secretary of State? From what I recall, she was bowled over by Cheney whenever she dared express a contrarian view. I don’t think she would do much to close the gender gap, women voters are looking at the policies and don’t simply vote for the Utero-American. I don’t think she’d pull much of the black vote, either, since being pro-choice wouldn’t appeal to those black Americans who have a hard time with Obama’s pro-choice, pro-gay marriage policies. I’m just not seeing a positive in her candidacy, which she clearly has no interest in. Ain’t gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/37 "2012-05-14T15:13:52Z")
She would be a strong choice. Romney’s foreign policy chops need shoring up and very few Republicans outside of Rice have as good a reputation. (Colin Powell excepted) ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/38 "2012-05-14T15:23:47Z")
I think there is a lot of misunderstanding going on in this thread. When someone mentions her as a lesbian, they aren’t decrying her as a lesbian, they’re decrying the GOP, who hate homosexuals. I’d like there to finally be a LGBT person to hold pres/vice, if only to show the haters that they are normal people. But it really, really doesn’t look like it’s going to be someone in the GOP. Romney just kicked out a staffer because the right was outraged that he hired a gay dude. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/39 "2012-05-14T15:28:05Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I don’t care about her appearance, orientation, or whether she and Bush did the double nasty. She is by all accounts extraordinarily bright. But what did she accomplish as Secretary of State? From what I recall, she was bowled over by Cheney whenever she dared express a contrarian view. I don’t think she would do much to close the gender gap, women voters are looking at the policies and don’t simply vote for the Utero-American. I don’t think she’d pull much of the black vote, either, since being pro-choice wouldn’t appeal to those black Americans who have a hard time with Obama’s pro-choice, pro-gay marriage policies. I’m just not seeing a positive in her candidacy, which she clearly has no interest in. Ain’t gonna happen. Agree with this. Everyone is discussing her qualifications and electibility, but the real point to ponder is why so many people find her a compelling choice. I see the scorecard stacking up this way: [ol] [li]Celebrity - to the People magazine level voters in the Republican party, she’s a celebrity - much like Palin. They don’t really know much about her accomplishments or her views, just that they recognize her face and name.[/li][li]Female - There is definitely an appetite in Republican circles for the Great Female Hope.[/li][li]Black - Even though we assume there are a lot of racists to deal with in the Republican arena, there are also a lot looking for the Great Black Hope. Being a cerebral type she’s like a bookend to Obama. This makes her an acceptable type of Black to them.[/li][li]Tabula Rasa - Similar to what I noted above, she is frankly an unknown to the downmarket voters, they easily project onto her all sorts of fuzzy notions about what she stands for - true or not. This would likely change after a few cycles of scrutiny.[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813/40 "2012-05-14T16:06:24Z")
No way on earth this is going to happen. Whenever somebody makes a suggestion like this and says “It would be a game changer,” you can rest assured they’re just filling column space and didn’t feel like doing any real work that week. Rice has said she’s not interested and the pick makes no sense for Romney anyway. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoleezza-rice-for-vp-with-romney/621813.md?page=3)