# Condoms required if on film

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 17, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836 "2012-01-17T22:18:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/1 "2012-01-17T22:18:53Z")

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In your private life, condom use is optional. But the LA City Council has decided that if your bedroom antics are filmed, you’d better wrap that rascal:

[http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2012/01/la-approves-new-law-regulating.php](http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2012/01/la-approves-new-law-regulating.php)

I wonder what the qualifications will be for the enforcement squad, AKA Pecker Checker?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/2 "2012-01-17T22:25:41Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> In your private life, condom use is optional. But the LA City Council has decided that if your bedroom antics are filmed, you’d better wrap that rascal:
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> [L.A. Approves New Law Regulating Porn Industry | TVWeek](http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2012/01/la-approves-new-law-regulating.php)
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> I wonder what the qualifications will be for the enforcement squad, AKA Pecker Checker?

So, San Fernando, Pasadena, Glendale and others are still safe sex free?

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/3 "2012-01-17T23:03:12Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> So, San Fernando, Pasadena, Glendale and others are still safe sex free?

There may be a mass migration. SF Valley doesn’t have far to go.

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/4 "2012-01-18T02:41:31Z")

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The ‘enforcement’ will be the market. Condom porn is gross and everybody hates it! Porn is the furthest thing from reality and rubbers have no place in it…

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/5 "2012-01-18T07:07:43Z")

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Nothing to add other than

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> Eating sliders.  
> Condoms required if on film

is one of the best ‘sequential thread’ titles I’ve seen in a while.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/6 "2012-01-18T07:19:24Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Nothing to add other than
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> is one of the best ‘sequential thread’ titles I’ve seen in a while.

Tried to extend it, but failed.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/7 "2012-01-18T08:48:10Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Tried to extend it, but failed.

That’s what she said.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/8 "2012-01-18T08:56:18Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> There may be a mass migration. SF Valley doesn’t have far to go.

The options are not unlimited. The reason porn production is so centralized is because there are only a few areas where there’s a court ruling explicitly declaring it’s legal to pay people to have sex on camera. Porn film studios that relocate risk, at the very least, some expensive court battles.

On a related issue, I wonder if this law could withstand a legal challenge. Can the government mandate the content of a movie? Suppose the City Council enacted a law forbidding any movie and television show filmed in Los Angeles from depicting a person smoking? I can’t imagine they’d be able to defend that in court.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/9 "2012-01-18T10:30:23Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> That’s what she said.

Hey, I’m not as young as I once was.

ETA: Had a job where one of my duties was providing the owner with “that’s what she said” straight lines.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/10 "2012-01-18T10:42:13Z")

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Surprised by this, [we had discussed it in a previous Thread when it was set to be a Ballot Measure with the June 5th Election.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=636392) I didn’t know there was an option for the City Council to just put it into effect.

From the OP’s link

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> City law required the council to approve the initiative as an ordinance or place it before voters in an upcoming election. Council members and supporters said approving the ordinance would avoid the $4 million cost of putting it on the June ballot.

On the topic of “The Market will Decide” and all productions will just move out of the city, I’ll repeat what I said in the other Thread:

[One estimate says that 90% of all legally distributed porn filmed in the United States is filmed or produced in the San Fernando Valley.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fernando_Valley#Adult_entertainment) Even if that number is inflated (which I’m prepared to believe it is), we’re still dealing with a hell of a lot of production companies suddenly looking for studio space in Burbank and Calabasas.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/11 "2012-01-18T11:13:00Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> ETA: Had a job where one of my duties was providing the owner with “that’s what she said” straight lines.

Did you get paid by the line or the inch?

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/12 "2012-01-18T13:05:00Z")

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This was inevitable after Adult Industry Medical was shuttered.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/13 "2012-01-18T15:37:56Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> On a related issue, I wonder if this law could withstand a legal challenge. Can the government mandate the content of a movie? Suppose the City Council enacted a law forbidding any movie and television show filmed in Los Angeles from depicting a person smoking? I can’t imagine they’d be able to defend that in court.

Well, various townships have banned smoking from bars and the like to protect workers at those establishments, I don’t see how this is different. Its been pretty well established that towns can pass regulations forcing safety measures to protect workers on the job.

FWIW, if the claims of STD rates amongst porn actors are true, I suspect that these types of regulations will follow the industry if they flee to LA suburbs. We wouldn’t allow any other industry to continue as it had been if their workers were subject to similarly high health risks, especially when a cheap and effective countermeasure is available.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/14 "2012-01-18T15:51:09Z")

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“All right, everybody suit up! CONDOMS ON, NOW!”

“Wait… isn’t this a documentary about the impact of global warming on marine life?”

“NO EXCUSES! EVERYBODY WEARS A RAINCOAT! You too, catering boy!”

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/15 "2012-01-18T16:11:05Z")

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I have never understood why it was OK for adult film performers to risk death and/or disease for my entertainment, I’m perfectly OK if those rascals all get wrapped. Of course, you may say, “Isn’t it the same thing as high wire acts performing without a net?” To which I say, “I’m perfectly OK with them having a net.”

That said, letting city councils regulate the content of films is probably a dangerous precedent.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/16 "2012-01-18T16:23:09Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> That said, letting city councils regulate the content of films is probably a dangerous precedent.

I don’t really see it as regulating the content of a film so much as a safety regulation regarding the actors. Presumably there’s a pretty long list of stuff I can’t do in movies because it would be illegally endangering the safety of the actors. Indeed, as far as movie stunts go, there’s a pretty large number of regulations due to reactions from past on-set accidents. So far as I know, they’ve never been challenged in court.

The effect on the content of the film is incidental. And if someone comes up with an invisible condom or something, presumably that could still be used legally.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/17 "2012-01-18T17:10:17Z")

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I’m wearing one now.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/18 "2012-01-18T17:38:48Z")

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I don’t particularly love the way condoms look in porn, but I don’t think people should be getting sick so I can masturbate either.

In other words, I support this.

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**Author:** ![brittekland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@brittekland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brittekland)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/19 "2012-01-18T17:44:52Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> I wonder what the qualifications will be for the enforcement squad, AKA Pecker Checker?

I don’t know which would be better, Pujol Checker for the anti-sodomy law or Pecker Checker.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/condoms-required-if-on-film/609836/20 "2012-01-18T17:52:50Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’m wearing one now.

Are you in your bunk?:dubious:  
😃

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