# Conduct Unbecoming a Moderator **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 22, 2001, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771 "2001-11-22T15:41:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2001, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/41 "2001-11-23T17:30:51Z")
Libertarian is taking a break from everyday activities on this board. Please give him space and time and some basic consideration, it’s not right to make comments about someone that’s not here to defend himself. He’s listed as being “On Sabbatical.” That means just what it says, he’s not an active participating member of the SDMB. your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2001, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/42 "2001-11-23T17:39:48Z")
There was something that bothered me about the whole incident. If you look at **Euty** ’s post to [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1788568#post=1788568) thread, you will probably see what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2001, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/43 "2001-11-23T17:43:52Z")
Ooops, my link seems to take me to the end of page one of the thread instead of **Euty** ’s post. Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/44 "2001-11-24T01:52:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by k.os \* > \*\*There was something that bothered me about the whole incident. If you look at **Euty** ’s post to [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1788568#post=1788568) thread, you will probably see what I mean. \*\* I, for one, fail to see the relevance. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/45 "2001-11-24T02:17:46Z")
Well, I could have misinterpreted the whole thing, but from > [@](#): > > Anyone who would stoop so low as to dig up their dead brothers corpse in order to butress their own wants and needs is beneath contempt. I thought that **Euty** was against appeals to pity or such devices, yet he posted this: > [@](#): > > [**…**]I have one autistic son who I love dearly but whose OCD is at times impossible to deal with; who screams so loudy when he doesn’t get his way at times that I sometimes fear that the next door neighbours are going to call the cops and report us for child abuse and the only thing that stops them is that the people across the street have fights that are even louder than that. > [@](#): > > [**…**]I have another autistic son who’s on a feeding tube and has to be hooked up to machinery four times a day just to get proper nutrition. And who’s preferred way of expressing disaproval with > something, or even just having fun, is to throw whatever he can find that’s not nailed down in any direction it will go. > [@](#): > > [**…**]I get almost zero personal e-mail and what e-mail I do get is asking me to take care of board problems unless I whine about never getting any personal mail and feeling completely out of it at which time I get a few bones thrown under my table. > [@](#): > > [**…**]I have a wife who’s suddenly revealed to me that she’s pretty much a lesbian and knows now that she probably has been throughout the marriage, so any sex we have these days is rare, and at best emotionless.[**…**] in response to a troll who asked what was up his ass. Basically, in my understanding, **Euty** did something very similar to what he accused **lib** of doing. If someone shows me I’m wrong, I’ll gladly retract the statement. ---
**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/46 "2001-11-24T02:31:13Z")
So, k.os, you felt it was necessary to dredge this up in a thread where Euty apologized to the board. You’re a class act all the way. And you think that the two events are similar, right? You’re about as sharp as a bag of wet mice. ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/47 "2001-11-24T02:42:15Z")
**Slip** If you believe that the two incidents are so dissimilar, please explain. Insulting me doesn’t help clear up the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/48 "2001-11-24T02:47:31Z")
Well, it’s not my job to educate you, k.os. If you can’t see what is obvious to me, than nothing I say will have an effect. And the difference between your insult to Euty and my insult to you is that mine was direct and to the point. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/49 "2001-11-24T02:48:37Z")
k.os: In the first case, Euty was answering a direct question: what bug crawled up your ass? He was describing the bug. In the second case, Lib pullled out a deeply emotional anecdote in what appeared to be an attempt to add emotional resonance to a topic which was really rather trivial. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/50 "2001-11-24T02:50:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by k.os \* > \*\ ***Slip** > If you believe that the two incidents are so dissimilar, please explain. Insulting me doesn’t help clear up the issue. \*\* I’m not **Slip** , but I play him on TV. The difference is that **Euty** was asked what’s bothering him, and so he answered. **Lib** decided to open a new thread to continue on about how ill-received his idea was and used the story of his dead sibling to further an agenda over an ultimately trivial subject. Can you see that difference on your own, or do I need to draw you a map? ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/51 "2001-11-24T03:30:20Z")
I was not insulting **Euty**. I pointed out the fact that he used similar devices in a past argument. If that constitutes an insult, I am sorry. It was not my intention. Just to clarify my position: It seemed pretty obvious to me that john487 was referring to **Euty** ’s closing [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97029) thread. I fail to see what **Euty** ’s personnal life, tragic though it is, had to do in the thread [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97122). **Euty** himself knew this, as expressed by himself in point 11 of his flaming of john487: > [@](#): > > Or maybe, as I suspect, it’s because I shut down the threads about SqrlCub’s little stunt because the matter is being dealt with and as much as everyone wanted to vent their bile, I saw no reason to turn the BBQ Pit into a lynch mob. If that is indeed that case and the OP is not now trying to back out of it then I don’t need any fucking snot-nosed knock-kneed four-eyed dipwad cockflanger asshole 50-post-count dry-heaving vomitous-pile-of-turkey-dung wretched-bilious-pile-of-crap Richard-Marx-listening flop-jawed gerbiling JERK telling me how to do my job and the only thing that keeps me from going completely ballistic on your soggy-bottom ass is that I’m listening to Molly by Mike Oldfield right now which always tends to calm me down. I’m dropping this now. Again, if I upset anyone, I apologize, such was not my intent. ---
**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/52 "2001-11-24T04:07:48Z")
**Crunchy** said: > [@](#): > > I’m not Slip, but I play him on TV I don’t wear shades when I’m on night watch. Would you mention that to the director? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/53 "2001-11-24T04:11:50Z")
This could have just been another run of the mill SDMB “agree to disagree” pissing contest between conflicting opinions until Libertarian decided to be a sulking drama queen and exhume the corpse of his dead brother and proceed to attach him to a puppeteer rig so he could manipulate everyone’s emotions with an extremely moving story and then bounce him up and down at the end in support of his position. It was just a _horrible_ thing to do. Whether Libertarian’s deceased brother exists in fact or in fancy is beside the point. Doing this was beyond even the limits of bad taste for the pit and Euty’s response was not out of line. I think a lot of people felt the same way about Libertarian’s stunt. ---
**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/54 "2001-11-24T04:33:45Z")
**k.os** wrote: > [@](#): > > Again, if I upset anyone, I apologize, such was not my intent Bullshit. It was clearly your intent. You took a parting shot with your links and quote. But you’re “dropping it now.” Well, thank you very much. I guess you may have figured out by now that I don’t have much patience with a weasel. Have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/55 "2001-11-24T04:42:48Z")
The whole situation is totally ridiculous, IMO. Many of the comments in the original MPSIMS thread were of the following style, with my responses here for the first time (I wasn’t particularly fond of hashing things out in MPSIMS). [li]We already do that when we want to.[/li]~Then what is the big fucking deal? [li]This will start problems.[/li]~The biggest problem I see is what we have here, not actually congratulating posts, posters, etc. In short, a self fulfilling prophecy. Thanks. [li]I don’t want to have to compete with my posts.[/li]~?? Like we’re were going to give away fame, money, and a fucking prime-time slot on national television. [li]This will inspire cliquishness.[/li]Allow me to roll my eyes. :rolleyes: There, that’s better. We have forums dedicated to different styles of posting. We have flirt buddies. We have political lines in GD. We have mod-lovers and mod-haters. In short: :rolleyes:. You want to get upset about cliquishness it is a little late. You should have checked in a few evolutionary branches ago. Now we end up with feelings hurt, not because of congratulatory writings, but because of the mere possibility of congratulatory writings by a group of _admittedly_ arbitrary posters! Well, I’m sorry it came to this, and I am suprised and disappointed. I thought it would be fun, too. Perhaps I’ll go check out the IMHO Prom King and Queen thread where I won’t be accused of some oblique conspiracy to undermine posters’ feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/56 "2001-11-24T05:10:31Z")
**erislover** , it probably _would_ have been a lot of fun, and I didn’t really have a problem with the concept. But I sure had a problem with who was running the show, and how it was going to be run. The whole thing was an ill-conceived fuck-up right from the start. Even you have to admit that. Frankly, if you were to start something like this, I would merely sit back and watch the show. I won’t take a cheap shot at **Lib,** because he’s not here to defend himself, and because I’ve already stated my reason in the original thread. If you want to pick up the pieces and try to salvage this, you won’t hear a word in opposition from me. If **Libertarian** is involved in any way, you will. ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/57 "2001-11-24T05:11:08Z")
**Slip** I am not weaseling, you are misrepresenting my intentions. Big difference. As I have said before, the only reason I posted the links and the quote I did my last response was to clarify why I had posted what I had posted earlier. I cannot help the fact you see insults where none are intended. I will not be dragged in a pissing match, so I won’t respond to your insults anymore. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/58 "2001-11-24T05:31:02Z")
> [@](#): > > The whole thing was an ill-conceived fuck-up right from the start. Even you have to admit that. The biggest criticism I had seen was “Other award-type-things led to hurt feelings in the past”. While I think Lib should have handled the negative reactions a bit better, I do think that the idea is, at the core, a good one, and have been thinking of ways to make it work to everyone’s satisfaction. If there are any specific aspects of it that you think are “ill-conceived”, then I, for one, would be quite glad to know exactly what they are, so that they may be avoided. ---
**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/59 "2001-11-24T05:44:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by k.os \* > \*\ ***Slip** > I will not be dragged in a pissing match, so I won’t respond to your insults anymore. \*\* What makes you think that I’ll continue to insult you? I’m done with you. Your sense of fair play is sadly lacking. A guy apologizes, but that’s not good enough for you. You have to bring up something that happened three weeks ago, unrelated to what’s happening now. Whether **Euty** should have apologized or not is completely irrelevent. The fact that he did should be enough. Most civilized people graciously accept the apology and do not throw up past transgressions, real or imagined. Grow the fuck up, punk. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771/60 "2001-11-24T05:54:42Z")
**Coldifre** : > [@](#): > > You might want to read my closing remarks in the actual thread to find out why it was closed. Ahh, my apologies. I’d actually read the post, but didn’t have it in front of me when I posted here. What stuck with me about it was (A) that you closed the thread in question, and (B) that nearly the entire post was a list of reasons why **Lib** had to take it out of your forum. I forgot about the very last line, and just connected _A_ and _B_ above. Anyway, like I said, mea culpa. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conduct-unbecoming-a-moderator/94771.md?page=4)