# Confederate base names going away **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 11, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855 "2020-12-11T20:23:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/61 "2022-10-12T14:11:46Z")
I didn’t realize this was an old thread so when I read “a major rebuke to President Donald Trump who has urged Republican opposition and threatened to veto the legislation.” in the OP, my initial thought was ‘wow, he really does think he’s still president’. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/62 "2022-10-12T18:25:04Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > …when codebreakers discovered Yamamoto’s plan to fly to a Japanese base later in the war and planners were debating whether to send fighters to shoot down his plane, there apparently was debate about the wisdom of that move, since Yamamoto by that point had done a pretty good job of helping the Allies win the Pacific War. Churchill decided similarly when presented with a plan to assassinate Hitler by sniper at Berchtesgaden. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/63 "2022-10-12T19:05:56Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I wish they’d pick a 2-syllable name to replace Benning. Fort Moore ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/64 "2022-10-12T19:07:48Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I suspect this is a sardonic reference to Bragg’s less than stellar record on behalf of the South during the Civil War. You suspect correctly. More or less Gen. Jubilation T Cornpone. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/65 "2022-10-13T12:59:04Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Based on his catastrophically bad decisions after Pearl Harbor (especially the Midway offensive), maybe we should name a fort after Isoroku Yamamoto.\* Or Fort Hitler, for his aid in making sure that Germany’s heavy armor was miles inland waiting to be deployed en masse instead of shooting down at the beaches of Normandy. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/66 "2022-10-13T13:37:13Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Based on his catastrophically bad decisions after Pearl Harbor (especially the Midway offensive), maybe we should name a fort after Isoroku Yamamoto.\* Name a fort after a _sailor_? Never! ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/67 "2022-10-16T21:03:24Z")
No left handed gay person on the list? 🙂 I knew we would get a woman and a black person. BTW New names are a great idea ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/68 "2022-10-16T21:28:01Z")
> [@GWF\_Hefel](#): > > I find the new name useless in practice and typically American rah-rah-rah. It’s kind of to be expected that military bases, of any country, will be rah-rah-rah. The anomaly was in having, for many years, military bases named after enemies of our country. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/69 "2023-05-15T15:43:52Z")
> **[DOD Begins Implementing Naming Commission Recommendations](https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3260434/dod-begins-implementing-naming-commission-recommendations/)** > > The Naming Commission process ended and the names of bases, posts, ships, streets and more named after Confederate soldiers will change. > **[6 Army bases named after Confederate leaders get dates for new names](https://www.axios.com/2023/03/25/fort-hood-new-name-name-fort-cavazos)** > > Nine U.S. Army bases are being redesignated, shedding names honoring the Confederacy. > **[Georgia's Fort Benning drops Confederacy connection with new name in honor of...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/us/fort-benning-georgia-renamed-moore-reaj/index.html)** > > Fort Benning, a massive US Army training base near Columbus, Georgia, was renamed Fort Moore on Thursday to honor the late Lt. Gen. Harold "Hal" Moore and his wife Julia, who both made "meaningful and lasting contributions" to the Army, officials... > **[Texas' long troubled Fort Hood is renamed after first Hispanic four-star...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/us/fort-hood-texas-renamed-cavazos/index.html)** > > Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas, named after a Confederate general and long plagued by a series of suicides, homicides and fatal accidents, was renamed on Tuesday after the Army's first Hispanic four-star general. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/70 "2023-05-15T15:48:37Z")
They have until the end of the year to complete the transition to the new names. I’m especially liking the new name of Fort A. P. Hill. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/71 "2023-05-15T16:48:17Z")
If only Columbus could be removed from everything. He had little to do with continental North America anyway. A person less deserving of adulation would be hard to find, at least before trump. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/72 "2023-05-15T16:53:47Z")
**Modding** : This would be better as its own thread then in this one. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/73 "2023-05-15T18:16:54Z")
Yeah, it was a bit ot. Delete please. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/74 "2023-05-15T18:22:26Z")
I’m a little disappointed in the Naming Commission’s choice for Fort Bragg; “Fort Liberty” is kinda meh, like they just couldn’t think of another worthy soldier to honor. (For that matter, Braxton Bragg was an odd choice to begin with. The other Confederate-named forts were at least named after _competent_ traitors.) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/75 "2023-05-15T18:34:38Z")
Yeah, Fort Liberty is lame. Should have named it Fort Sherman or Fort Chamberlain or Fort Reynolds or… ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/76 "2023-05-15T18:45:21Z")
There might have been less opposition for the renaming if they would have just named them for worthy heroic Southerners from the last 100 years. There must be a few. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/77 "2023-05-15T18:49:57Z")
[Yeah, Fort Liberty is lame. Should have named it Fort Sherman or Fort Chamberlain or Fort Reynolds or…](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus) Or even Benavidez. People are melting down online about the renamings. I get it. I was at both Bragg and Benning (at Benning for only 3 weeks, but that was enough). There’s a certain prestige being at those locations. Benning has Infantry and Airborne training as well as Ranger school and 75th Ranger Regiment. Bragg has 82nd Airborne, XVIII Airborne Corps., Special Forces, and Special Operations Command. So there’s a lot of people out there saying “It will always be Bragg to me.” My only response is that the bases shouldn’t have been named after traitors to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/78 "2023-05-15T19:44:54Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > named them for worthy heroic Southerners from the last 100 years. There must be a few. Fort Gingrich? Fort Thurmond? Fort Wallace? ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/79 "2023-05-15T20:47:14Z")
Fort Courage? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/80 "2023-05-15T20:51:56Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > There might have been less opposition for the renaming if they would have just named them for worthy heroic Southerners from the last 100 years. There must be a few. Fort Stevie Ray Vaughan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855.md?page=5)