# Confederate base names going away

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 11, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855 "2020-12-11T20:23:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/121 "2025-02-12T14:30:18Z")

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Secretary of Defense Agarn.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/122 "2025-02-12T16:02:03Z")

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“Look, I think Fort Benedict rolls off the tongue. What’s the issue?”

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/123 "2025-02-12T16:13:50Z")

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Fort Jackson Lee. A two-fer in honor of, um, Sheila Jackson Lee.

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/124 "2025-02-12T16:36:32Z")

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“Mr Secretary, I don’t know why everybody says you’re so dumb!”

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/125 "2025-02-12T20:02:16Z")

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Forts Larry, Moe, and Curly more like.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/126 "2025-02-12T20:13:53Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Forts Larry, Moe, and Curly more like.

Along the border at Niagara Falls…

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/127 "2025-02-12T20:23:34Z")

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Slowly I turned…

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/128 "2025-02-13T00:12:25Z")

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We should name these after one of the greatest heroes of the Confederacy, James Longstreet. If the people who were previously in favor of CSA names are all of a sudden not in favor, I’d like to see them explain why. It will be funny.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/129 "2025-02-13T01:47:08Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> If the people who were previously in favor of CSA names are all of a sudden not in favor, I’d like to see them explain why. It will be funny.

Am I missing a specific reason why they should hate him?

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/130 "2025-02-13T03:57:34Z")

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Lost Causers hate him, ostensibly for some contrived reason about how he lost the war, but ultimately because he spent postwar vocally advocating for black civil rights. He wasn’t the only one but he was the scapegoat for those types.

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**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/131 "2025-02-13T15:57:23Z")

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Longstreet got a lot of criticism after the war, partly because he changed sides and became a Scallawag, partly as a means of deflecting any criticism of Lee’s generalship, which was seen as akin to blasphemy.

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**Author:** ![FrenchDunadan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frenchdunadan/32/5449_2.png) [@FrenchDunadan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrenchDunadan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/132 "2025-02-13T21:14:48Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Before or after they find one named Hitler?

Hum…

> **[Corpsman Hitler, U.S. Navy? - Lyon Air Museum](https://lyonairmuseum.org/blog/corpsman-hitler-us-navy/)**
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> Adolf Hitler’s nephew served in the US Navy in WWII. William P. Hitler was sworn in on March 6, 1944 \[...\]

They can.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/133 "2025-03-03T23:14:17Z")

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Ft. Moore is now Ft. Benning again.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/134 "2025-03-04T03:06:20Z")

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As with Ft. Bragg, it is at least putatively _not_ renamed after a Confederate general: [Fred G. Benning - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_G._Benning)

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2025, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/135 "2025-03-04T03:21:37Z")

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> [@Bear\_Nenno](#):
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> Ft. Moore is now Ft. Benning again.

It shall now be Fort Annette Benning to me. Not that I ever think about it, much less bring it up in conversation.

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**Author:** ![deltogre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deltogre/32/5041_2.png) [@deltogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltogre)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/136 "2025-03-04T18:02:06Z")

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Pete Hegseth, like the rest of Trump’s sycophants, is a cowardly pile of dog shit. They know exactly what they are doing. What a garbage dump. What a sorry excuse for a human…

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/137 "2025-06-10T23:59:07Z")

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> Trump told U.S. Army soldiers during a speech at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, “For a little breaking news, we are also going to be restoring the names to Fort Pickett, Fort Hood, Fort Gordon, Fort Polk, Fort A.P. Hill and Fort Robert E. Lee.”
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> As with the recent renaming of Fort Bragg and Fort Benning, Defense officials said Tuesday they selected service members with matching last names to rename the bases—ensuring the installations no longer officially bore names linked to the Confederacy.

> **[Donald Trump lists Confederate fort names he plans to restore](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-restoring-confederate-fort-names-including-robert-e-lee-2083684)**
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> Trump said he's restoring the name of Fort Robert E. Lee and other current or former instillations named after Confederates.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/138 "2025-06-11T00:23:31Z")

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So Trump is (once again) lying by saying they’re “restoring the names to …Fort _A.P._ Hill and Fort _Robert E._ Lee.”

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/139 "2025-06-11T00:33:13Z")

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Out of the millions of soldiers in US Army history surely there is another “Robert E. Lee”.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-base-names-going-away/927855/140 "2025-06-11T00:57:08Z")

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Well, c’mon. TFG had to be reminded that the Nazis were the bad guys in WWII by the German Chancellor.

> **[A German leader’s D-Day lesson for Trump ](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/inflection-points/a-german-leaders-d-day-lesson-for-trump/)**
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> In the Oval Office, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz delivered a message that no American should ignore.

Just think of how hard it must be for him to keep track of which side were traitors in the Civil War.

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