# "Confederate Flag"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 20, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577 "2008-06-20T13:28:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/41 "2008-06-21T09:35:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Aquila Be]  
During an extended visit to the US some years ago I passed through at least half a dozen southern states and I don’t recall seeing even one instance of the [confederate flag](http://www.nationalcountryflag.com/Image.aspx?URL=http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/13000236/images/1/rf1136__1.jpg) being flown anywhere.

On one occasion I thought I spotted one but on closer inspection it turned out to be a Cuban flag.  
[/QUOTE]  
Several people on these boards have repeatedly pointed out that the flag which arouses so much ire is NOT the flag of the Confederate States but people continue to call it that.

As of now, we have had 563 views of this thread with only 39 people posting which brings the average of the sightings down to approximately 7% and that is more on the order of what I expected.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/42 "2008-06-21T10:13:37Z")

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1. January

2. On a guy’s porch

3. Westside of Cleveland suburbs, OH  
I’m fairly sure that the confederate flag is used to signify flame-grilled burgers and the like here on packaging. I must see if I can find an example at the store and scan it.

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**Author:** ![schnuckiputzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@schnuckiputzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/schnuckiputzi)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/43 "2008-06-21T15:31:33Z")

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1. Quite frequently I see the battle flag…not the Stainless Banner, or the Blood-Stained Banner
2. trucks, stickers, shirts, homes
3. Central/Southern Illinois

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/44 "2008-06-21T15:53:15Z")

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1. Driving to work this morning
2. Flag pole
3. In front of the State House (as distinct from on TOP of the State House.) Yes, it’s the famous one.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/45 "2008-06-21T17:52:22Z")

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Some of my answers are vague.  
#1. I don’t remember exactly when the last time I saw one was. They’re not exactly common around Little Rock but seeing one isn’t exactly shocking either.

#2. Usually I see them on the back of trucks but between Sheridan and Little Rock there is a house with a flag on display in the window. I also see them a lot at those little roadside stands selling things like flags, shirts, and hats.

#3. Little Rock, Arkansas.  
Marc

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**Author:** ![PaulParkhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PaulParkhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulParkhead)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/46 "2008-06-21T18:14:30Z")

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1. About two weeks ago.

2. In a window.

3. Belfast, Northern Ireland 😕

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/47 "2008-06-21T20:24:47Z")

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\*Last weekend

\*Large sticker on the back of a pickup truck gate

\*Valley View, Ohio (between Akron & Cleveland) movie theatre parking lot.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/48 "2008-06-21T20:43:40Z")

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[QUOTE=ZipperJJ]  
**1.0 When was the last time you saw one displayed?**  
Wednesday

**2.0 Where was it displayed? (Car, flag pole, window, etc., etc.)**  
A picture on the back of a bottle of [Maurice’s BBQ Sauce](http://www.mauricesbbq.com/)

\*\*3.0 Geographical location where subject flag was displayed. \*\*  
Me and the jar were in Ohio, but it was imported from South Carolina. I served the sauce at a BBQ I threw on Sunday, and was eating leftovers until Wednesday. The bottle is embarrassing but the sauce is SO GOOD…  
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Dude. We here in _South Carolina_ don’t put money in that man’s pocket; do your share!

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/49 "2008-06-21T21:47:41Z")

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[QUOTE=LouisB]  
As of now, we have had 563 views of this thread with only 39 people posting which brings the average of the sightings down to approximately 7% and that is more on the order of what I expected.  
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That’s an absolutely meaningless statistic. I’ve viewed this thread probably four times but haven’t been arsed to respond until now. If I view it again to see if you respond, that’ll be another view.

1. Last Sunday

2. Bumper sticker of an old Dodge truck

3. At a Burger King drive through on the outskirts of Covington, KY

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/50 "2008-06-21T23:34:20Z")

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[QUOTE=black rabbit]  
That’s an absolutely meaningless statistic. I’ve viewed this thread probably four times but haven’t been arsed to respond until now. If I view it again to see if you respond, that’ll be another view.

1. Last Sunday

2. Bumper sticker of an old Dodge truck

3. At a Burger King drive through on the outskirts of Covington, KY  
[/QUOTE]  
Yes, I’ve been pondering that very thing for the last hour or so. I was hoping to get some sort of idea as to ubiquitousness of that damned flag but I guess this is far from the best way to proceed.

So, this was a flop and a mod should shut it down.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/51 "2008-06-22T01:02:00Z")

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1.0 When was the last time you saw one displayed?  
About half an hour ago

2.0 Where was it displayed? (Car, flag pole, window, etc., etc.)  
On the wall

3.0 Geographical location where subject flag was displayed.  
Redneck renter’s wall (North Carolina, my house)

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/52 "2008-06-22T01:27:02Z")

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The last one that sticks out for me is when I was in college, one of the dorms on campus, someone had a Confederate flag displayed in his dorm room window on the second floor. What made this entertaining, was that on the third floor, the room immediately above this guy’s had the Union Jack displayed.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/53 "2008-06-22T01:29:22Z")

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[QUOTE=LouisB]  
1.0 When was the last time you saw one displayed?

2.0 Where was it displayed? (Car, flag pole, window, etc., etc.)

3.0 Geographical location where subject flag was displayed.  
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1. About three hours ago, walking into Best Buy.

2. On a pickup truck (giant window sticker).

3. Waterford Lakes Town Center (shopping area), East Orlando, FL

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/54 "2008-06-22T02:03:08Z")

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Summarizing the thread, it’s no surprise - The flags aren’t ubiquitous, but they’re hardly rare. They are seen far more often in the south than elsewhere.

Pretty much what everyone knows, except for a few denialists here on the SDMB.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/55 "2008-06-22T03:42:58Z")

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[QUOTE=LouisB]  
I was hoping to get some sort of idea as to ubiquitousness of that damned flag but I guess this is far from the best way to proceed.

So, this was a flop and a mod should shut it down.  
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Why is it a flop? Because you were trying to prove some point?

I don’t see the thread as a flop. I find it interesting. As you’ve already discovered, you aren’t going to be able to determine ubiquitousness or make \*anything \*out of the view/reply ratio. I mean, I see the flag somewhat regularly (I’m in Virginia) but I wasn’t really compelled to answer b/c for most threads I’m content to lurk unless I’ve got something particularly interesting or insightful to add.

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**Author:** ![dynamitedave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed655f/32.png) [@dynamitedave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dynamitedave)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/56 "2008-06-22T06:48:44Z")

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Fairly regularly, say within the last 6 months

Flag across a semi-tractor’s rear window

Somewhere in the upper North Island

I’ve also see regularly a semi’s bug deflector stickered up with a Confederate flag

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/57 "2008-06-22T10:47:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]  
Summarizing the thread, it’s no surprise - The flags aren’t ubiquitous, but they’re hardly rare. They are seen far more often in the south than elsewhere.

Pretty much what everyone knows, except for a few denialists here on the SDMB.  
[/QUOTE]  
I don’t think anyone denies that the flag is seen almost everywhere in the USA. I mistakenly thought I might be able to actually get a sense of where it is most often displayed, but I chose a very imprecise method of doing so.

Just out of curiosity, what method have you used in determining that the flag is seen “far more often in the south than elsewhere.”

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**Author:** ![FourPaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e0b2c6/32.png) [@FourPaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FourPaws)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/58 "2008-06-22T11:23:03Z")

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I used to have a 1969 Dodge Charger, painted up like the General Lee from Dukes of Hazzard.  
So of course, it had one painted on the roof.  
Still miss that car.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/59 "2008-06-22T11:26:56Z")

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10 minutes ago, on a flagpole at a Southern US-themed cafe

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confederate-flag/453577/60 "2008-06-22T17:00:27Z")

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[QUOTE=dynamitedave]  
Fairly regularly, say within the last 6 months

Flag across a semi-tractor’s rear window

Somewhere in the upper North Island

I’ve also see regularly a semi’s bug deflector stickered up with a Confederate flag  
[/QUOTE]

In _NZ_? Really? Is there some sort of national _Dukes of Hazzard_ fetish a la the German fascination with David Hasselhoff, or am I missing something?

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