# Confess!!! (your climate sins) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 19, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502 "2019-09-19T16:39:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/1 "2019-09-19T16:39:11Z")
The Right has long felt that the environmental movement was becoming essentially a religion for the Left. Now it seems that journey is complete, with a [confessional](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/specials/climate-confessions-share-solutions-climate-change-n1054791) and everything: > [@](#): > > **Climate Confessions** > > Even those who care deeply about the planet’s future can slip up now and then. Tell us: Where do you fall short in preventing climate change? Do you blast the A/C? Throw out half your lunch? Grill a steak every week? Share your anonymous confession with NBC News. I suspect much laughter will ensue from the responses. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/2 "2019-09-19T16:42:19Z")
Much laughter will ensue because it’s pretty clearly tongue in cheek. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/3 "2019-09-19T16:48:23Z")
Wow. There are some confessions, and then there are stuff like this: > [@](#): > > who cares? I’ll do what I like. I’ll floor it in my gas guzzling sports car just for fun. You do not matter to me. I have no words. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/4 "2019-09-19T16:53:26Z")
> [@Zyada](#): > > Wow. There are some confessions, and then there are stuff like this: > > > [@](#): > > > > who cares? I’ll do what I like. I’ll floor it in my gas guzzling sports car just for fun. You do not matter to me. > > I have no words. That’s a pretty accurate summation of “The Right”'s general position on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/5 "2019-09-19T16:53:27Z")
> [@](#): > > [I would rather the whole planet burn than give up steak. Kick rocks hippies.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/specials/climate-confessions-share-solutions-climate-change-n1054791#detail-708a5e70-da61-11e9-8b00-c99d100f10e1) Apostate! Burn him! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/6 "2019-09-19T16:53:33Z")
The last thing we need is for people to think about the impact their own behavior has on the environment. It might accidentally lead to meaningful change, forcing hardcore comedy fans like the OP to find some other hilarious thing to giggle at. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/7 "2019-09-19T16:57:48Z")
If the righties think it has become a religion, then guess what? The right is wrong as hell, as usual. Lefties generally care about the environment, and respect the science that claims we’re doing great harm. My car has a V-8 engine that only uses 4 when I’m cruising. I could do better by the environment, I suppose, but I don’t put many miles on it and I pass the emissions test every 2 years. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/8 "2019-09-19T17:04:53Z")
It is pretty hard to make sense of what appears to be Trump’s war on the environment. How shortsighted, and how craven to big business can you be? Thinking most recently of the proposal to restrict California’s air quality laws. But as to the OP - any who takes a plane trip is creating a pretty massive personal carbon footprint. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/9 "2019-09-19T17:06:02Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Apostate! Burn him! No need, he’ll take care of that himself. Take the rest of us with him, too. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/10 "2019-09-19T17:27:07Z")
I guess if Noah had decided to have a barbecue instead of a cruise, he’d have nothing to repent. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/11 "2019-09-19T17:36:24Z")
I love the environment. It’s nice having air with oxygen and not too much lead. However, I have a confession. Sometimes I take 2 showers in a day. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/12 "2019-09-19T18:20:02Z")
Grilling a steak a week is bad? What, are supposed to eat it raw? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/13 "2019-09-19T18:43:30Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > But as to the OP - any who takes a plane trip is creating a pretty massive personal carbon footprint. It’s high but not OMG high. I did the math for an LA-NYC trip. Fly commercial, and you generate the equivalent of 1900 kg of CO2. Drive that same trip in a car that gets 30 MPG, and you generate 845 kg of CO2. My sin? Recreational motorcycling. I’ll ride a motorcycle across multiple states to get to where there are fun, scenic roads. And then I’ll spend several days riding those roads, taking extremely circuitous routes between waypoints, and riding in an extremely sporting fashion - that is, hard on the throttle and hard on the brakes, all day long. And then I’ll ride across multiple states to get home afterwards. Basically anyone who burns fossil fuel for fun or luxury ends up being tagged as a climate-sinner. Enjoy airshows? Sinner. Motorsports? Sinner. Running the AC when a fan would do? Sinner. Dry your clothes in a machine instead of on a line? Sinner. Hot oatmeal? Sinner. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/14 "2019-09-19T18:55:47Z")
Hmm, lets see… My daily driver car is an emissions-fixed 2012 VW Golf TDI diesel my garden tractor is a 20+ year old Kubota 3-cylinder diesel (just a muffler, no emissions hardware) I own a 1999 Yamaha V-Star 650 classic that has no emissions controls, just mufflers my house uses both propane (stove) and home heating oil (oil furnace) and HHO is basically diesel/kerosene I am an omnivore with strong carnivore leanings on the upside; I really don’t drive/ride excessively much, under 10,000 miles a year I grow a large percentage of my food in my backyard garden I keep the house at 68 degrees in the winter, and in the mid 70’s in the summer, and try to use as little home heating oil and electricity for the AC as possible I’ve planted a good amount of trees, shrubs, and blueberry bushes in the yard ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/15 "2019-09-19T19:27:52Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I love the environment. It’s nice having air with oxygen and not too much lead. Liberal. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/16 "2019-09-19T19:28:21Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > It’s high but not OMG high. I did the math for an LA-NYC trip. Fly commercial, and you generate the equivalent of 1900 kg of CO2. Drive that same trip in a car that gets 30 MPG, and you generate 845 kg of CO2. Is that per plane or per person? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/17 "2019-09-19T19:39:56Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Is that per plane or per person? Per passenger. So yeah, it’s 2.5X what you put out if you drive, bu it’s not like it’s 30 or 40X or something. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/18 "2019-09-19T19:47:25Z")
I confess…after 10 years of owning a hybrid car, I sold it and got a full-blown gas guzzler. Also, I eat red meat in up to nine meals a week, if you include all-beef hot dogs, beef meatballs, and pepperoni pizza as “red meat.” And, even though I live alone, a few nights ago, I had the lights on in three rooms at once! ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/19 "2019-09-19T19:55:02Z")
Good - I downsized to a condo Bad - The HVAC system gave mass trouble which caused me to have to manually manipulate the air conditioning (more expensive and wasteful), and it was the old, freon-using, kind Good - I replaced the system with something that uses less energy and doesn’t use freon **Win** Good - I’m unemployed and therefore not driving back and forth to work Good - I didn’t fly to France or Seattle as I wanted to because of unemployed (and therefore poor) Bad - I still flew to Ohio and back just to deliver a kitten (used FF miles) **Win** Good - I’m trying to eat more veg meals instead of meat Bad - Due to move, I no longer grow veg and must drive to farm market **Tie** Bad - I’m ordering stuff online, and sometimes it comes from China in plastic bags and cardboard boxes Good - I use reusable shopping bags as often as possible **Lose because I don’t think it’s an even-up trade** Good - I now practise trying to find pre-owned items instead of buying new in order to not add to the landfill. Bad - I no longer have a compost heap for me food scraps. **Win but only a small one** So I’m doing a bit better than I was two years ago on the green scale (I was already trying to be green) but I still have a way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502/20 "2019-09-19T20:29:37Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > That’s a pretty accurate summation of “The Right”'s general position on the subject. I thought the right’s general position was “It isn’t happening, you can’t make me believe it’s happening, lalalalalalalalala” (fingers in ears) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confess-your-climate-sins/840502.md?page=2)