# Confused and chastened by Tubadiva

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2002, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736 "2002-07-31T18:32:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/61 "2002-08-01T12:21:18Z")

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Seems OTT to me as well and quite inconsistant. There are several threads knocking around that are in the same category.

Raising the tone but no indication of how or why just a prissy smug put down. Way to keep people friendly and on your side.

It may be their playground but it might not be as popular if they start taking away the rides.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/62 "2002-08-01T12:24:20Z")

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_“oh, and grienspace, get over yourself.”_

Jesus, Guin, get over YOURself. Way to focus on the larger issues. :rolleyes: indeed, squared, and tied in a bow with sparklies. _Seems_ lately like I can’t get through a pit thread without seeing you weigh in with your opinion of one poster or another.

Like most of the other people in the thread **s** revolving around this issue…I feel that the “tone” used when the labia thread was closed was dismissive, arbitrary and uninformative. The thread itself…I dunno, I thought it was a shame that so many people wasted their posts on “:eek:” rather than actually thinking about the thread…even if it was meant as a joke thread (which we’ll never know) there is a very interesting discussion that **could** have come of it, and I’m not talking about porn stars or fisting videos. I mean videos about fisting, not actually attempting to fist a video. You know what I mean. I actually had a post…an :eek: -less post…in mind, and was sorta sorry to see it locked.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/63 "2002-08-01T12:45:01Z")

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Aren’t these the same mods who said this place isn’t “Romper Room” and that we will discuss things that _aren’t_ suitable for all ages? Aren’t these the same mods who have _encouraged_ the use of the abbreviation ‘TMI’ to indicate potentially offensive material? And now they tell us that we have to ‘raise the tone’ of this place, as if we were expecting ‘company’ and had to impress them. They did this not in the approved way, by creating a sticky at the top of each forum, but by insulting a long-time member in good standing in a way that was singularly unclear.

If they are going to be as capricious as a May breeze, they shall destroy the SDMB more completely than a registration fee, for they will lose the fair-minded and intelligent among us.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/64 "2002-08-01T14:45:20Z")

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Mmmmmm…  
glasses.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/65 "2002-08-01T15:02:10Z")

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Oh for crying out loud, I hate it when you realize after posting that there’s a second page of comments and your post now has no relevant meaning!

As to the OP, I seriously doubt there’s a whole new shift in policy here. I imagine Tuba will come in at some point and explain because Scylla’s thread was funny and informative at the same time and certainly not vulgar. I’ve never had to copulate with a Dixie chick before and found the narrative interesting.

I respect Tuba’s decision making abilities and look forward to some light being shed.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/66 "2002-08-01T15:32:00Z")

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At the moment I can only think of Alexander Pope’s ‘Epistle to Dr. Arbuthnot’ (at line 308): “Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel.” - as borrowed by William Rees-Mogg in a famous Sunday Times leader in 1967.  
I am unhappy that ‘censorship’ has become a hijacked concept (by politicians) to mean only perceived positives (vote winners like “protecting the children”), when it has, IMHO, a far more significant social cost: On important issues, it negates the ability to fight ignorance.

No, it’s not simply a question of protecting children vs. freedom of speech. I hope to (try to) contribute further when time permits.

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/67 "2002-08-01T15:50:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Jodi \*  
> _:: Jodi takes the girls out ::_
> 
> _(sound of lonely cricket chirping)_
> 
> _:: Jodi puts the girls back ::_

**Why** did you do that? Didn’t you hear the cricket chirping? That’s what they do when they’re, um, lookin’ for love. (Can we still say that here? Is it too much information?) Here you’ve gotten that lonely cricket all excited, tempting him, tormenting him, and then you shut him down. How _could_ you, woman? Have you no mercy? _Won’t somebody think of the crickets?_  
Oh, and put me in the “What the heck is going on around here?” camp.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/68 "2002-08-01T15:58:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lieu \*  
> **I’ve never had to copulate with a Dixie chick before and found the narrative interesting.**

Maybe you mean, Dixie **cup** , lieu?

Because copulating with the Dixie Chicks should be more than ‘interesting’.

wow

Sorry. I’m confused by the event, too. And I wouldn’t mind knowing if there’s some reasoning we’re missing.

But I couldn’t pass up that line. Mmm…Dixie Chicks…

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/69 "2002-08-01T16:07:34Z")

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There’s an announcement [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=78638) from **UncleBeer**

😕

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/70 "2002-08-01T16:09:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*  
> Because copulating with the Dixie Chicks should be more than ‘interesting’.  
> \*\*

Just make sure your name’s not Earl.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/71 "2002-08-01T16:10:16Z")

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Um, sorry I didn’t even read date on the OP. It seems it was resurrected this morning.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/72 "2002-08-01T16:13:21Z")

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That announcement’s from last year, **Honey** - it’s just been bumped recently (was posted July 19, 2001).

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/73 "2002-08-01T16:14:47Z")

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Oops, slow simulpost, my mistake.

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**Author:** ![GKW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@GKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GKW)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/74 "2002-08-01T16:24:53Z")

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Perhaps **Scylla’s** posts just bring out the dominatrix in women? Possibly a natural response to the joyful scream of rage and pain 😉

It looks like the request/policy to _not_ post about overly graphic material has been in effect for over a year but it hasn’t been consistently enforced.

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**Author:** ![Sparc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Sparc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparc)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/75 "2002-08-01T16:43:38Z")

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0,02 Euro from Sparc….

Can’t say that I am big fan of the ‘bleeding my heart out with TMI’ threads. Therefore I don’t read them. Need I say more?

I will anyway,

This is arbitrary censorship since it attacks things like tastefulness in choice of subject matter and not offensiveness or illegalities. The latter two are much easier to define as rules of the game, while the first is as I said arbitrary.

Arbitrary rules fosters reluctance and insecurity, as in; “Dare I post this?” That is not a spirit of open debate.

That being said I return to my first statement. The BBQ Pit is really in sad state. Sometimes I wonder why half of all the threads are in here and not in MPSIMS. Is it just with the purpose of circumventing the rules against overtly colorful language or what? That’s fine by me, but last time I checked the purpose of the BBQ Pit was;

> [@](#):
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> If you gotta flame, do it here. This is the place for all complaints and other discussion regarding administration of the SDMB.

So flame away at whatever you need to AFAIAC, but if you want to bleed and bawl about the drudgery of your life, get your ass back to MPSIMS and use the appropriate level of language. So you might say; “why not move the thread?” Honestly, if I were a moderator I wouldn’t know what to do to, since once it is in the Pit it is bound to contain enough offensive language and/or invective to be unmovable.

In summary  
As per the communicated rules from the administration and IMHO: If Tuba’s intent was to stop Scylla from talking about his balls and sperm count she was in the wrong. If the intent was to purge the Pit from MPSIMS like threads that are unmovable due to language content; say so.

Then there is the possibility that there is a new rule. I hope not. Enforcing the existing rules should be enough and in this case my interpretation would have to be: Scylla, you fucked up by posting an MPSIMS like thread in the Pit with such language in it that it should be closed, due to being immovable.

I’m raving here so…

Flame me if you must - we are in the Pit after all.

Just don’t ask me about my sperm count or why the fuck I hate it when one of my golf partners doesn’t get dressed for the occasion, cause I ain’t bound to answer, since it is MPSIM not S.

Sparc

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/76 "2002-08-01T17:50:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Catgirl \*  
> \*\*call me nieve but im kinda new here , Who is this blueangel and what happened ? all i seem to get is that blueangel was 12 \*\*

Oh, stop it. You fool no one. At least change your location next time.

Damn kids.

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**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/77 "2002-08-01T17:54:43Z")

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This recently posted by **Arnold** in ATMB.

> [@](#):
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> \*\*Staff members have differing opinions on drug threads/sex threads. We are discussing the issue right now.

\*\*

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=128510](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=128510)

So it seems there is some kind of internal debate going on.

Oh, and **Sparc** , there’s no need for you to explain your problem with your golf partner. I think everyone fully appreciates how distracting a naked golfer can be. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/78 "2002-08-01T18:25:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> If Tuba’s intent was to stop Scylla from talking about his balls and sperm count she was in the wrong.

Why?

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**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/79 "2002-08-01T19:03:25Z")

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Face it people. The mods can do whatever they want. I do think however that locking some sex related threads was a little overboard. But I have noticed in the last week the amount of sex and drug related threads has increased slightly. Maybe they were just trying to clean it up a bit and get back to the normal inane topics.

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**Author:** ![Delta-9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Delta-9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delta-9)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/80 "2002-08-01T19:03:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \*  
> \*\*  
> Mods are mods, they work for free and we post for free. If they want to close a thread just because they don’t like blondes with big tits who wear glasses on Wednesdays, that is their right. JMHO, of course, speaking as blonde with big tits and glasses. \*\*

Well, now you certainly have my attention.

Girls with glasses. . .mmm.

😉

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