# Confused and chastened by Tubadiva

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2002, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736 "2002-07-31T18:32:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Farren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@Farren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farren)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/81 "2002-08-01T19:23:09Z")

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From a quote by **Arnold** , in [ATMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128510):

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> The clarification: Staff members have differing opinions on drug threads/sex threads. We are discussing the issue right now.

So my guess is that we’re not going to see a moderator or administrator explanation until the staff has discussed the issue amongst themselves and come up with a more-or-less unified position on the future of sex threads on the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Farren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@Farren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farren)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/82 "2002-08-01T19:25:24Z")

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_reads Truth Seeker’s post_  
Note to self: read, _then_ post. _Grumble_

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/83 "2002-08-01T19:25:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hamadryad \*  
> \*\*_“oh, and grienspace, get over yourself.”_
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> Jesus, Guin, get over YOURself. Way to focus on the larger issues. :rolleyes: indeed, squared, and tied in a bow with sparklies. _Seems_ lately like I can’t get through a pit thread without seeing you weigh in with your opinion of one poster or another.
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What the fuck crawled up your ass and died? Jesus Christ on a stick, what the HELL did I do to you?

I was annoyed by his:

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> Several times in the past, particularly in a very recent thread where I merely pointed out a clear discrepency in a moderator action for which I was merely amused, you Scylla saw fit to flame my ass, suggesting I was lucky I haven’t been banned. No one else saw fit to respond in like manner. Just because you’re one of those moderator ass kissing posters who flame newbie’s for questioning moderator actions, that doesn’t make you immune from administrator censure.

Which to me served nothing more than to get in a personal shot at someone in an unrelated thread. His post smacked of the whole, “Nyah nyah nyah, it happened to you! HA HA!!!”

Christ, where did I specifically call someone out just for the purpose of doing so?

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/84 "2002-08-01T19:37:13Z")

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That’s not a personal shotl - that’s pointing out a discrepancy. The “moderator ass-kissing” part is definitely a personal shot, but it’s obscuring an actual point. Your comment was uncalled for and snotty.

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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/85 "2002-08-01T20:01:56Z")

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Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/86 "2002-08-01T20:25:45Z")

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And frankly, if they’re going to clean up anything, I wish they’d clean up people thoughtlessly and carelessly stabbing people of faith in the heart. I mean, Martin Luther King Jr in a noose, man! Stop it. Please stop it.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/87 "2002-08-01T21:37:11Z")

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> Staff members have differing opinions on drug threads/sex threads. We are discussing the issue right now.

This reminds me of high school when something big would happen and we would hear something like this immediately followed by a school-wide assembly for “The Great Announcement” that (for example) rock-group t-shirts were now on the forbidden clothing list (conservative Christian school - _shudder_) and Timmy wouldn’t joining us anymore.

Not that any of that’s relevant to the OP. I guess just note me as one of the puzzled anxiously awaiting enlightenment.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/88 "2002-08-01T21:39:35Z")

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> And frankly, if they’re going to clean up anything, I wish they’d clean up people thoughtlessly and carelessly stabbing people of faith in the heart. I mean, Martin Luther King Jr in a noose, man! Stop it. Please stop it.

Go find your own cross. This one’s taken. Have you no shame?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/89 "2002-08-01T21:41:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*  
> And frankly, if they’re going to clean up anything, I wish they’d clean up people thoughtlessly and carelessly stabbing people of faith in the heart. I mean, Martin Luther King Jr in a noose, man! Stop it. Please stop it.

So much for taking the high road. “Several people at the SDMB engage in behaviour I find offensive, so I will start doing something else that I find offensive in the hope that they will get angry too!” That’s a good way to make the situation better.

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**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/90 "2002-08-01T21:45:23Z")

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Patience, patience.

It takes time to get the new governors installed on the dissenting staff’s brains. Not an installation job you want to rush.

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**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/91 "2002-08-01T22:03:54Z")

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Hey, **Arnold** , _ **No Fair!** _ You can’t come out of the smoke-filled room and get away with a comment like that. At the very least, you have to make an official statement that the talks are “constructive” and that “the parties are engaging in a frank exchange of views.”

Doesn’t anybody know how not to comment anymore?

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**Author:** ![Catgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@Catgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catgirl)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/92 "2002-08-01T22:20:01Z")

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Myrnalene …what ?

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**Author:** ![HoldenCaulfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@HoldenCaulfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoldenCaulfield)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/93 "2002-08-01T22:21:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Truth Seeker \*  
> \*\*Hey, **Arnold** , _ **No Fair!** _ You can’t come out of the smoke-filled room and get away with a comment like that. At the very least, you have to make an official statement that the talks are “constructive” and that “the parties are engaging in a frank exchange of views.”
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> Doesn’t anybody know how not to comment anymore? \*\*

He really could take a few pointers from Ari Fleischer, the best White House Press Secretary the US has ever known. He **really** never reveals anything, and he answers every question, no matter what it is, with “As I’ve already stated…” and follows with whatever his pre-Q&A statement was. Plus, he stays calm the whole time. He’s a delightful mix of Allen Covert in Little Nicky and Josh Malina in Sports Night.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/94 "2002-08-01T22:32:39Z")

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You’re right, Arnold. But I just hoped that someone might get some hint as to how it feels to those of us who believe that Jesus Christ is our Savior and Lord to see metaphors about hoisting Him up on a stick. Apparently, you felt it just a bit, at least. Empathy is a first step.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/95 "2002-08-01T22:36:40Z")

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Tubadiva, can you please clarify any new guidelines for posting that you have deemed necessary to act upon without telling us first?

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**Author:** ![Sparc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Sparc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparc)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/96 "2002-08-01T22:53:45Z")

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> Why?

Logic and consistency, as rare an animal as it be….

Fucking around with me there Lib?

You know what I meant.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/97 "2002-08-01T23:00:30Z")

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Can this site even be accessed by someone with that “parental guidance” software? You know, the program that blocks anything that contains certain words, like for instance “breast”, even if the site is about breast **cancer**. [sub]Which doesn’t do much good, because porn sites do not usually **say** “breast”; they use much more graphic terms.[/sub] Seems that the inclusion of the word “Dope” would keep this site permanently on the “grown-ups” side of the barrier.

I know others have said it, but I’ll reiterate anyway, because I shudder to think that this is all because of **Blueangel**.

**This site is under no obligation to be kid-friendly**. As has already been stated, the columns alone fall into the R-rated category. I don’t want to see subjects suppressed because they’re not suitable for Nickelodeon, on the off chance that a seventh-grader might find hir way in here. AFAIK, we don’t **get** many visitors that age, and I see no reason to cater to them.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/98 "2002-08-01T23:01:08Z")

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Libertarian, can you do us all a favor and go run around screaming hysterically for all of us to have pity on Tuba somewhere else?

I don’t think anyone here has suggested that she’s a bad person with evil intention…in fact several have suggested that perhaps she had a bad day. Your posts in this thread have gotten consistently more weepy, shrill and ridiculous and your last statement about Martin Luther King, Jr. achieved nothing besides making me sick.

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/99 "2002-08-01T23:59:31Z")

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But the other statement, about the stick, didn’t bug you at all? I think Lib might have proved his point here. It made me think, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2002, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confused-and-chastened-by-tubadiva/121736/100 "2002-08-02T00:09:38Z")

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All right, perhaps I jumped the gun a bit, but **grienspace** ’s post seemed way too “Nyah nyah nyah!” to me, even if he DID have a point.

**Lib** -you seem to be forgetting that I’m a Christian too, if not a very good one. And I’m the one who said Jesus Christ on a stick.

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