# confusing NASCAR sticker...FAG **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 22, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989 "2005-05-22T21:18:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/1 "2005-05-22T21:18:26Z")
I have seen on more than a few vehicles with a sticker or self made proclamation made from stick on letters that read: **F** ans **A** gainst **G** ordon I know that Gordan is a racer, but I don’t understand the intent of the sticker. Is the person displaying the sticker against Gordon, and calling themselves a FAG? Is the person displaying it a Gordon fan, and calling the anti-Gordon person a “FAG”? Did Gordon say fag in an interview, and now FAG is being used as a protest against him? What’s the deal? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/2 "2005-05-22T21:30:51Z")
[More than you probably want to know](http://groups.msn.com/FansAgainstGordon/thecaseagainstjeffgordon.msnw) Also, Gordon is sometimes referred to as the “Rainbow Warrior”. The rainbow is often associated with gay rights. Whether this is relevant, I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![hermann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b487fb/32.png) [@hermann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hermann)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/3 "2005-05-22T21:41:02Z")
> [@](#): > > Also, Gordon is sometimes referred to as the “Rainbow Warrior” And in case you were wondering why that is, it’s becuse of the paint scheme on his DuPont-sponsored car. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/4 "2005-05-22T21:55:35Z")
There are some allegations, AFAIK unfounded, that Mr. Gordon is in fact bisexual. The Dupont rainbow paint scheme contributes to this hypothesis. Supposedly he and his wife separated after she discovered him in a compromising position. ---
**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/5 "2005-05-22T21:59:09Z")
I’m still not sure I understand the sticker. It appears that the fans dislike Gordon because he represents a corporate influence in motor sports (or just NASCAR?) that amounts to unfair competition. Additionally, his car has a rainbow paint scheme. So, is the sticker pro or anti Gordon? Is the sticker calling the anti-Gordon fans FAG, or is the sticker owner proclaiming their anti-Gordon opinion and calling themselves a FAG? I would assume the former, as the latter would be anti-intuitive, but it isn’t very clear to me. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/6 "2005-05-22T22:03:39Z")
The sticker is anti-Gordon (the site refers to him as “Jeffipoo Gordum”). I think the acronym is a jab at Gordon, but I wonder if they really thought it out. “Yeah, that’s right, I’m a FAG!” “You’re a gay man?” “Uh, no. I’m a Fan Against Gordon, you know, a FAG.” “Ah, I see.” ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/7 "2005-05-22T22:06:53Z")
monkeyfist writes: \> Is the sticker calling the anti-Gordon fans FAG, or is the sticker owner \> proclaiming their anti-Gordon opinion and calling themselves a FAG? Neither. Without knowing anything about this before opening this thread, it’s obvious to me what the fans that have these bumper stickers are saying. They’re saying that they don’t like Gordon and that he is probably homosexual. ---
**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/8 "2005-05-22T22:24:45Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > The sticker is anti-Gordon (the site refers to him as “Jeffipoo Gordum”). I think the acronym is a jab at Gordon, but I wonder if they really thought it out. > > “Yeah, that’s right, I’m a FAG!” > > “You’re a gay man?” > > “Uh, no. I’m a Fan Against Gordon, you know, a FAG.” > > “Ah, I see.” Yeah, seems very counterintuitive. “I’m a FAG! That’s right, I’m homophobic and hate that rainbow car driving, boy-kissing-fag Gordon.” I thought this is what it was, but couldn’t believe that the owner wouldn’t immediately see it this way too. It still makes no sense to me. > [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > Neither. … They’re saying that they don’t like Gordon and that he is probably homosexual. Mr. BS, then my second suggestion would be correct. “the sticker owner [is] proclaiming their anti-Gordon opinion and calling themselves a FAG” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/9 "2005-05-22T22:30:33Z")
> [@monkeyfist](#): > > Mr. BS, then my second suggestion would be correct. “the sticker owner [is] proclaiming their anti-Gordon opinion and calling themselves a FAG” Well, I didn’t make that second comment, but I agree. ---
**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/10 "2005-05-22T22:40:36Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > Well, I didn’t make that second comment, but I agree. OOPS, sorry. :smack: \ \*\*DOOOO OVERRRR!!! \*\* \ > [@wendell wagner](#): > > Neither. … They’re saying that they don’t like Gordon and that he is probably homosexual. **Wendell** , then my second suggestion would be correct. “the sticker owner [is] proclaiming their anti-Gordon opinion and calling themselves a FAG” ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/11 "2005-05-22T22:42:12Z")
No, they’re calling Gordon a fag, not themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/12 "2005-05-22T22:49:28Z")
> [@Wendell Wagner](#): > > No, they’re calling Gordon a fag, not themselves. That might be what they are _attempting_ to say, but by referring to themselves as Fans Against Gordon, they are thereby calling themselves F.A.G.s. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/13 "2005-05-22T22:54:10Z")
I wouldn’t set very high hopes on gay haters making much sense. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/14 "2005-05-22T22:59:07Z")
Scott Plaid writes: \> That might be what they are attempting to say, but by referring to themselves \> as Fans Against Gordon, they are thereby calling themselves F.A.G.s. I’d like to see you explain that to the people who display those bumper stickers. They would say, “What are you, an English teacher? You’re probably a fag too.” And then they would homosexually rape you before killing you. ---
**Author:** ![ltfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@ltfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ltfire)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/15 "2005-05-22T23:10:14Z")
You know you’re a Redneck when you hate fags, and you are one. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/16 "2005-05-22T23:18:18Z")
> [@Wendell Wagner](#): > > I’d like to see you explain that to the people who display those bumper stickers. They would say, “What are you, an English teacher? You’re probably a fag too.” And then they would homosexually rape you before killing you. I **love** that song. (Dueling Banjos) P.S. You know, as long as we are arguing grade-school style, I know how to use a gun. That is to say, to protect against anal-rapist, not grade schoolers. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/17 "2005-05-22T23:24:36Z")
> [@Wendell Wagner](#): > > Scott Plaid writes: > > \> That might be what they are attempting to say, but by referring to themselves > \> as Fans Against Gordon, they are thereby calling themselves F.A.G.s. > > I’d like to see you explain that to the people who display those bumper stickers. They would say, “What are you, an English teacher? You’re probably a fag too.” And then they would homosexually rape you before killing you. Reminds me of that movie, _Say It Isn’t So_, a comedy. (thanks [imdb.com](http://imdb.com)) In the movie, the town tough (mistakenly) believes a guy is in town to have an incestuous affair with his own sister. If I remeber correctly, they chaise him through the woods and he gets away, so as he is too far away, they say: Freddy: “He better not come back!” Jimmy: (screaming for the guy to hear) “Yeah, that’s right, or we’ll tie you to a tree, fuck you in the ass while we jerk you off! Show you what we really do to perverts around here!” ---
**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/18 "2005-05-22T23:25:41Z")
p.s. I am an English Teacher. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/19 "2005-05-23T01:44:25Z")
I opened this thinking it was about the German ball bearing manufacturer. Now I wonder if it has anything to do with the characters in Jack Chick’s latest tract. ---
**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/20 "2005-05-23T01:50:04Z")
> [@Padeye](#): > > I opened this thinking it was about the German ball bearing manufacturer. Now I wonder if it has anything to do with the characters in Jack Chick’s latest tract. What? Explain the “German ball bearing manufacturer” and “Jack Chick’s latest tract” for me. Please? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989.md?page=2)