# confusing NASCAR sticker...FAG

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 22, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989 "2005-05-22T21:18:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/41 "2005-05-23T05:44:29Z")

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Gary T writes:

\> How stupid do you have to be to claim to be a member of group whose initials  
\> spell “FAG” and even put a bumper sticker on your car that says “F.A.G.” and  
\> still think you’re not labeling yourself a “FAG?” They may somehow think they’re  
\> not calling themselves “FAG’s” but I would bet that virtually everyone else in  
\> the world thinks that exactly what they’re doing.

They are stupid, and they are dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/42 "2005-05-23T05:47:53Z")

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I went through all their posts and found [this.](http://groups.msn.com/FansAgainstGordon/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=858&LastModified=4675446519317904996)

It appears that they definitely know that they are “F.A.G.s” and I was glad to see that one of them pointed out they were not a homosexual community. I think \*\* Mr. Blue Sky \*\* second reply is the most accurate version.

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**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/43 "2005-05-23T05:51:55Z")

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Upon more internet searching, I have “discovered” that there are numerous anti-Gordon groups and organizations. Only this particular one are F. A. G.  
Others include:

Fans Against Jeff Gordon (FAJG)  
United Against Gordon (UAG)  
NASCAR Fans Against Jeff Gordon (NFAJG)  
there are more

I had been under the impression that F.A.G. was the official anti-Gordon group. This does not appear to be the case. So, apparently only the F.A.G. group is ironically challenged.

So to be clear, I guess, not all Gordon haters are F.A.G.s, just the F.A.G.s are.

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**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/44 "2005-05-23T05:57:41Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> I went through all their posts and found [this.](http://groups.msn.com/FansAgainstGordon/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=858&LastModified=4675446519317904996)
> 
> It appears that they definitely know that they are “F.A.G.s” and I was glad to see that one of them pointed out they were not a homosexual community. I think \*\* Mr. Blue Sky \*\* second reply is the most accurate version.

Holy Poop! Thanks for the link **Lakai**. The actual post and response is as follows:  
“im so happy to be a part of FAG, everyone’s been really nice to me.  
im happy that FAG has come a long way int he past year and hope that u guys will let me be a member for years to come.”

“Welcome FAG! We hope you have a good time here. Post often and be ready of the feed back. We dont always agree with each other.  
So there is no confusion, this is a racing communittee made up of members who think Jeffiepoo Gordum is a jerk. This is NOT a homo site.  
Express your opinions as you like, and have fun.  
Chuck”  
::shakes head:: You just can’t make this stuff up.

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**Author:** ![Barely\_Adequate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@Barely\_Adequate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barely_Adequate)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/45 "2005-05-23T06:12:05Z")

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When all is said and done, I think it’s safe to say that the concept of “irony” is lost on your averge NASCAR fan… mulletts kinda’ block out anything that is even slightly nuanced.

-Richard

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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/46 "2005-05-23T11:42:07Z")

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On the same inexplicable car sticker front …

We’ve all seen the “Calvin peeing on various things” stickers. Calvin Peeing on Dale Gordon’s # 3. Calvin Peeing on the Chevy symbol. Calvin peeing on the Ford symbol.

Well, I recently saw, on a Chevy, a sticker of Calvin peeing on ANOTHER Calvin who was peeing on the Chevy symbol.

So the moral is: Two wrongs do make a right, even if your car is being peed on

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/47 "2005-05-23T13:02:01Z")

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> [@toadspittle](#):
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> On the same inexplicable car sticker front …
> 
> We’ve all seen the “Calvin peeing on various things” stickers. Calvin Peeing on Dale **Gordon’s** # 3. Calvin Peeing on the Chevy symbol. Calvin peeing on the Ford symbol.
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> Well, I recently saw, on a Chevy, a sticker of Calvin peeing on ANOTHER Calvin who was peeing on the Chevy symbol.
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> So the moral is: Two wrongs do make a right, even if your car is being peed on

Earnhardt, that should be.

Anyway regarding the OP;  
Jimmy Johnson and Gordon are teammates. Johnson’s number is 48. Gordon’s is 24. Is it any coincidence that 24 goes into 48 twice? Or that Gordon goes into Johnson twice? I think not.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/48 "2005-05-23T13:18:06Z")

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Well, it could be worse. You could be sporting a bumper sticker that proclaims:

“I love Dick Trickle”

[http://www.dicktricklefanclub.com/](http://www.dicktricklefanclub.com/)

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/49 "2005-05-23T13:39:16Z")

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This reminds me of the acronym chosen by Richard Nixon’s irony-impaired 1972 re-election committee:

The **C** ommittee to **Re** - **E** lect the **P** resident = **CREEP**

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/50 "2005-05-23T15:15:48Z")

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Calling Gordon a fag is Petty. Or, if you are a Fan Against Gordon – a fag – then you could use a Johnson to route for. Getting caught with Dick Trickle would be the pits, but if you are a FAG, you might consider that a GoodYear. Don’t forget the oil and some new rubber.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/51 "2005-05-23T16:27:01Z")

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> [@monkeyfist](#):
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> (SPaPGNHSET) do, infact, exist.

You do not understand, Lord Fisk. I am expressing doubt that there are really any other kind of English teachers besides SPaPGNHSETs. No matter how often, or how you show examples, I will not believe you. 🙂 Kinda like…

**Wendell Wagner** : You might claim that you are not of the group you claim to be warning us against, And I believe you. Your obsession with anal rape clearly show you do not now the least thing about nascar fans. (p.S. I care not a whit for sports) When I was a youngster, I used to spend time in Needmore, PA, and let me tell you, the local were only 1/3rd as interested in homosexualy raping people who understand the rules of grammer, as you seem to believe they are. 🙂

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**Author:** ![monkeyfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@monkeyfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeyfist)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/52 "2005-05-23T20:59:28Z")

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> [@Scott Plaid](#):
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> You do not understand, Lord Fisk. I am expressing doubt that there are really any other kind of English teachers besides SPaPGNHSETs. No matter how often, or how you show examples, I will not believe you. 🙂 Kinda like…
> 
> **Wendell Wagner** : You might claim that you are not of the group you claim to be warning us against, And I believe you. Your obsession with anal rape clearly show you do not now the least thing about nascar fans. (p.S. I care not a whit for sports) When I was a youngster, I used to spend time in Needmore, PA, and let me tell you, the local were only 1/3rd as interested in homosexualy raping people who understand the rules of grammer, as you seem to believe they are. 🙂

I had to do a google search to find the “Lord Fisk” reference. 'Cause you know, I never watch Kim Possible. 😉

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**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/confusing-nascar-sticker-fag/304989/53 "2005-05-23T21:20:40Z")

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U’m suprrised no one made a connnection to the politically liberal **F** ilm **A** ctor’s **G** uild in _Team America: World Police_.

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