# Congratulations, Joe\_Cool on being made a SDMB Mod **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150 "2003-01-12T17:02:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/61 "2003-01-16T03:54:22Z")
You say to-MAY-to, I say to-MAH-to. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/62 "2003-01-16T06:50:40Z")
Still, having been on both the giving and receiving ends of apologies (both warranted and unwarranted, freely given and having swallowed a bitter pill), an apology with an insult tacked on, even if it isn’t related, isn’t much of an apology. IMHO, that is. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/63 "2003-01-16T15:31:01Z")
Oh, that’s just horseshit and you really ought to know it, Joe. You are a damn liar. First of all, your supposed apology was coupled with the insult, not merely just happening to be in the same place as something else. For another, in this thread you say that you mean what you said and really aren’t apologetic for any of it. Of course, those aren’t your exact words, but that’s what the meaning comes across as. In the “devotional” thread, you weren’t asking for my response because of genuine interest–you were doing two things: hijacking the thread and looking for more ammunition to condemn. In that same thread, you said: > [@](#): > > But I still can see that you act like a jerk towards anybody who disagrees with you, and I still don’t like you. {Bolding mine} You need to prove that I “act like a jerk with **anybody** who disagrees with” me. For one thing, I’m not acting like a jerk, I’m responding rationally to your bullshit and lies. For another, I disagree quite often with gobear and Polycarp, just to name two. We manage to be friends here. Well, maybe in your twisted worldview, all those who have pitted you for your lies and hypocrisy are just acting like jerks. Apparently, you’re the jerk and aren’t too happy with that fact. Thus you ignore it. I fondly await the next fine example of decency from your filthy mouth. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/64 "2003-01-16T19:37:33Z")
**Esprix** : I’m amazed that so soon after your pit thread which included many weak and partial apologies by you, you see fit to be admonishing _anyone_ on the quality of _their_ apology. I’d stop throwing stones, if I were you – broken glass is pointy. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/65 "2003-01-16T19:42:22Z")
Back off of Esprix. Now. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/66 "2003-01-16T19:42:57Z")
Oh, boo hoo. :rolleyes: As I said to **Duck Duck Goose** in another thread, I know I’ve been guilty of it in the past, too, but I’m trying to learn from my mistakes - and it seems, hopefully, **Joe** is, too. Maybe you should take a tip. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/67 "2003-01-16T20:06:47Z")
Oh Great God Ironius, Thank you for bestowing Your mighty and ironic blessings on us in the person of your unwitting servant Ace. Amen. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/68 "2003-01-16T21:26:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > Oh, boo hoo. :rolleyes: As I said to **Duck Duck Goose** in another thread, I know I’ve been guilty of it in the past, too, but I’m trying to learn from my mistakes - and it seems, hopefully, **Joe** is, too. Maybe you should take a tip. As to the content, Amen. As to the tone, just what were you saying about snarkyness, again? Apparently none of us, save perhaps **Polycarp** are immune to the temptation of irony, sarcasm, and yes, snarkyness, in the face of a perceived attack, are we, now? Boo, hoo, yourself – Joe is snarky in the face of an unfounded pitting? _Damn his eyes!_ How on earth can you complain about snarkiness by the pittee when the original pit complaint is unfounded? Can you lock up someone up for resisting arrest when the arrest was invalid? It’s ridiculous! You keep expecting a calm, reasoned **Polycarp** -esque reply from Joe in the face of bashing him and his wife in the pit again and again (with zero Rationale – like when he was stereotyped with **His4ever** , or when **Homebrew** complained they were child abusers.) Oh my god! _He used foul language like us!_ Oh my god! _He’s just as snarky as we are!_ Oh my god! _He get’s pissed off when we call him an adulterous child-abusing jerk!_ Onion Newsflash: **Local Christian Not Yet a Saint.** And I’ve got another NewsFlash: I don’t think anyone here would have even responded _as_ well to such attacks. So maybe we should cut him a little fucking slack on his snarkiness and his language, ok? ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/69 "2003-01-16T21:33:05Z")
No need to drag me back into this **AceHole** , especially by misrepresenting me. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are unintentionally confabulating two different threads. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/70 "2003-01-16T21:44:34Z")
Well, thank you for the benefit. Indeed a confabulation. Homebrew was the stereotyper and JarbabyJ was the child abuse accuser. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/71 "2003-01-16T21:53:02Z")
And if you search to confirm that, you’ll find several more unfounded pit threads of Joe’s (I have it has 0 for 4), so complaining about snarkiness is rather like saying we’ll file four unfounded nuisance suits against you, and then sue you again for having such a sour attitude. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/72 "2003-01-16T22:35:40Z")
“And I’m very sorry, Homebrew. I’ll try not to let it happen again.” ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/73 "2003-01-16T22:39:13Z")
“And I missed you most of all Scarecrow”. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/74 "2003-01-16T22:39:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \* > \*\*And if you search to confirm that, you’ll find several more unfounded pit threads of Joe’s (I have it has 0 for 4), so complaining about snarkiness is rather like saying we’ll file four unfounded nuisance suits against you, and then sue you again for having such a sour attitude. \*\* 50 Million Elvis Fans Can’t Be Wrong ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/75 "2003-01-16T23:24:44Z")
I would like to drink some Homebrew, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/76 "2003-01-16T23:44:01Z")
Ace: It’s not unfounded. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/77 "2003-01-17T00:02:08Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **The Ace of Swords** _ > > … just what were you saying about snarkyness, again? I was saying that if you’re snarky, people will call you on it. What part of this aren’t you comprehending? [quote] Joe is snarky in the face of an unfounded pitting? _Damn his eyes!_ Um, no, the threads mentioned in the OP - the “Christian Devotional” and the “Unban Satan” therads - were not “unfounded pittings,” they were unrelated ones in which **Joe** made snarky comments. Then this thread was started because of those comments. And if you’re calling _this_ thread an “unfounded pitting,” then you haven’t been reading it. > [@](#): > > You keep expecting a calm, reasoned **Polycarp** -esque reply from Joe in the face of bashing him and his wife in the pit again and again… Oh my god! _He used foul language like us!_ Oh my god! _He’s just as snarky as we are!_ Oh my god! _He get’s pissed off when we call him an adulterous child-abusing jerk!_ Onion Newsflash: **Local Christian Not Yet a Saint.** Hmmm, let’s see - **Joe** seems to set himself (intentionally or not) on the moral high ground because he believes in the Bible, and touts his “Christian morals” quite loudly. His perogative - hell, his _right_ to do so. I don’t blame him. But how can anyone be surprised that, at times, he would be called on it? Or, if when he might take a conservative stance that affects, annoys, offends or insults others, his “Christian morals” - taken from the oft-quoted Bible - are thrown back in his face when he lapses from them? I’m not catching anything unusual here. Fair? Maybe not. People giving him a break? Not lately. But all honest? I’d say so. You might disagree - that, too, is your perogative. No one is suggesting he isn’t human and fallible, but if he’s going to use the Bible to define and defend his morals (on a public message board, I might add), then it seems right and proper for people to respond as they see fit. If he’s going to say, for the most obvious example, “The Bible says homosexuality is a sin,” to those of us who are homosexual, what’s the problem with us responding back to him, “The Bible also says that adultery and remarriage are sins.” 😕 (Granted, that’s just one example of the Pit threads you mentioned, but, again, none of this is surprising to me, and I doubt it is to **Joe** , either.) Didja follow all that, Sparky? And if it would make you feel any better, I’d be happy to show you all the places I, myself have been taken to task when I’ve been unusually snarky, pig-headed or wrong. Oh, wait, you already mentioned one, didn’t you? Or did you conveniently forget how I was taken to task? :rolleyes: Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/78 "2003-01-17T00:03:45Z")
Whoops! Bad coding on my part. There should be an end quote tag after, “_Damn his eyes!_” Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/79 "2003-01-17T02:41:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > **…what’s the problem with us responding back to him, "The Bible also says that adultery and remarriage are sins."** [Counting to ten before answering…] Yes, they are. What’s your point? One more time, Esprix…there would be nothing at all wrong with that pit thread…if only any of the participants in it HAD ANY CLUE WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. Man, you people make it difficult for a guy to try to mellow out and be nice. For the last time, Esprix: show me how divorce and remarriage being a sin affects me or my wife. Show your work. And in the future, before you clowns want to rip somebody a new asshole for something, at least GET YOUR DAMN FACTS STRAIGHT FIRST. […Counting to a hundred…] And Monty, once again, your little pit rant IS unfounded. Look at your OP again, and pay close attention: > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Monty_ > \*\*Er…my mistake. Apparently, you only believe you’re a moderator here. That can be the only explanation for your deigning to tell people what threads they can and can’t participate in and what they can and can’t say, even in a Pit thread. > > I, of course, refer to the “For Christians a devotional” thread in GD & the “Unban Satan” thread in the Pit. At any rate, the real SDMB mods usually don’t admonish folks with as much cursing as you do. > > {Suitable pause whilst I wait for the inevitable unchristian cursing of me and my character from Joe\_notcoolatall\*.} > > _This is not to be taken as my thinking that’s his username, but rather as my opinion of the poster so described._\* So, from the top:[ul][li]Apparently I believe I’m a moderator.[/li] **False.** [li]I tell people which threads they can and can’t participate in.[/li] **False.** [li]I did the above in the “Unban Satan” thread.[/li] **False.** Even people for whom “I dislike Joe Cool” would be a vulgar understatement have chimed in to tell you that you’re wrong. Accept it. [li]I will curse you out.[/li] **Also False.** [li]Joe\_notcoolatall[/li] **ESPECIALLY False** , given the relative success I’m having with the attempt to stay polite around here, when all you (collectively, but including you personally) do is talk smack and spread lies about, not to mention insult, me and/or my wife.[/ul] If you want to rant about something, I’m sure you can find something that’s true. So if you’re gonna do it, then do it and quit lying. And since my apology isn’t good enough for you (though it was offered sincerely), I hereby retract it. I acknowledge my error on that particular point of your church’s teaching. Nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2003, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150/80 "2003-01-17T06:17:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > > … show me how divorce and remarriage being a sin affects me or my wife. Sure - just as soon as you show me where homosexuality being a sin affects me or my boyfriend. 😃 Eh, let’s not dance around this again - we’ve both been there, done that, and neither of us has the energy. Agree to disagree, blah blah blah. I’m sure we’ll find reasons to argue again in another thread soon enough. 😉 > [@](#): > > And Monty, once again, your little pit rant IS unfounded. Look at your OP again… Well since he agreed that I pretty much hit the nail on the head, i.e., it was your general attitude that he took umbrage with, I’ll ask again - if he changes the OP, will that make things better? > [@](#): > > I tell people which threads they can and can’t participate in. And, again, some of us did read your statements that way. I thought we covered this? > [@](#): > > And since my apology isn’t good enough for you (though it was offered sincerely), I hereby retract it. I acknowledge my error on that particular point of your church’s teaching. Nothing more. Aw, c’mon, **Joe** - you were doing so well! ☹ Esprix [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-joe_cool-on-being-made-a-sdmb-mod/148150.md?page=5)