# Congratulations, Maatorc, on your century.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432 "2008-10-04T10:37:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/181 "2008-10-14T11:45:04Z")

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> [@maatorc](#):
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> When someone here correctly identifies Gurdjieff’s statement of what underlies the myth - (See posts 152 and 164 linked to 147, where the right paragraph has been found and commented on, but not the specific 15 word - 65 letter sentence which underlies the myth.) - I can then comment on Gurdjieff’s meaning.

Why do _we_ have to identify and quote “Gurdjieff’s statement of what underlies the myth” before you will comment on it? Are you at all familiar with how intelligent people discuss a topic? One person presents a viewpoint, preferably with some evidence from a reputable source to back up that argument, and then other people present their views on the topic, or ask for further information, or refute the original viewpoint with evidence of their own.

All you ever do is make statements without any supporting evidence, and when asked for explanations or further details you give us information on a book which supposedly supports your statement, and then expect us to locate a copy of the book and try to figure out what “the truth” is before you will say anything further.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/182 "2008-10-14T12:39:17Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Discussing this with **ivan astikov** is a complete waste of time.

I find it helps (inasmuch as anything can) to simply point out that he’s not intelligent enough to post anything but stupidities. His response invariably supports the claim.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/183 "2008-10-14T13:33:40Z")

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'cause one of the finer nuances of his myth is that if he says the magic words, rather than someone else, he will go poof!  
So we know we’re close with: [ul]“The soul, like the physical body, is also matter—only, it consists of “fecal” matter.”[/ul][ul]“The soul, like the physical body, is also matter—only, it consists of "dingy” matter.”[/ul][ul]“The soul, like the physical body, is also matter—only, it consists of "yechy” matter.”[/ul][ul]“The soul, like the physical body, is also matter—only, it consists of "zesty” matter.”[/ul][ul]“The soul, like the physical body, is also matter—only, it consists of “taboo” matter.”[/ul][ul]“The soul, like the physical body, is also matter—only, it consists of “lumpy” matter.”[/ul][ul]“The soul, like the physical body, is also matter—only, it consists of “bacon” matter.”[/ul]but we just don’t quite have it – one of the finer points is missing.  
What could be finer than to learn the magic words – finer, finer finer than what?

Finer than: “Brad: “I’ve got something to say.” Audience: “Say it Asshole!””

Finer than “Frank-N-Furter: “I see you shiver with antici . . .” Audience: Say it!””

Hey, I’ve got it! “Nothing could be fi-ner, than to be in maatorc’s pineal, in the mooor-or-or-ning!”

Except, of course, there is something finer in the morning, something far finer: bacon. And it’s time to go fry some up.

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**Author:** ![Lars\_Aruns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@Lars\_Aruns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lars_Aruns)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/184 "2008-10-14T14:06:54Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> My god - you’re optimistic. He hasn’t done that after all this time. I don’t see him starting now. (Unless you have superhuman powers, of course. You don’t - do you?)

No, I don’t have superpowers and I don’t think he’ll start behaving now. If he had bothered answering that list of question from **Don’t fight the hypothetical** I’d have had a faint hope he was not having a go at us. But, well, as it’s now abundantly clear, he’s trolling. Let’s stop feeding him now, shall we?

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/185 "2008-10-14T14:16:35Z")

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> [@Lars\_Aruns](#):
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> If he had bothered answering that list of question from **Don’t fight the hypothetical** I’d have had a faint hope he was not having a go at us

Yes - that’s when I thought that he really showed his true colours.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/186 "2008-10-14T14:36:58Z")

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My guess is that if Maatorc does not go POOF! from saying the finer magic words, he will go POOF! just from masturbating in his own mind about them too much.

Either way, nice to have met you, Maatorc.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/187 "2008-10-14T14:57:45Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> My guess is that if Maatorc does not go POOF! from saying the finer magic words, he will go POOF! just from masturbating in his own mind about them too much.

Either way, I think it’s time he went POOF!

**maatorc** , you’ve ignored repeated moderator instructions on demonstrating a good faith interest to have discussion and not merely keep repeating your lunacy. At this point, I have to conclude you’re either a troll or an uninteresting type of crazy person. Go find another message board to annoy.

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