# Congratulations, Maatorc, on your century. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432 "2008-10-04T10:37:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/21 "2008-10-08T04:11:23Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > \*er, debating, that is. Aw, come’on, where’s your sense of adventure ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/22 "2008-10-08T04:53:35Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I’d pay good money to have a thread specially set up so he and lekatt could go at it[sup]\*[/sup] without any interferance, at all. “…and as it turns out, the light at the end of the tunnel is a giant glowing pineal gland.” ---
**Author:** ![AngryIrishLass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbce88/32.png) [@AngryIrishLass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngryIrishLass)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/23 "2008-10-08T04:59:56Z")
Well, the Leonardo tangent was a fun read. The rest, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/24 "2008-10-08T15:17:00Z")
I know this is the pit, but I got a lot out of that thread. Aside from the insightful comments made by some, there were a number of (admittedly vain) attempts to make some sense of the flotsam and jetsam of a sinking mind. Of course, **maatorc** [admitted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10287410&postcount=402) that the topic was **maatorc** , but I really appreciated the attempts to reinterpret the surreal brain leakage as something sensible. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/25 "2008-10-08T16:06:42Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > Fie on you **Pochacco**! Tillengast’s basic research was sound. If only he’d received proper funding things would’ve worked out just fine. Venkman: At least I didn’t try to drill a hole in my head. Egon: That would’ve worked! ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/26 "2008-10-08T16:28:25Z")
Oddly enough – depending on your definition of “oddly” – he appears to choose only the most skeptical boards to post in: the SDMB, [JREF](http://forums.randi.org/) and The Skeptics Society appear to be the only places he goes with this particular screenname. Now I wonder why someone genuinely sharing what he believes to be worthwhile, nay vital, revelations about the one-only ‘inner school’ of myth-legend-etc. would restrict himself to three places in which he’d cause the most kafuffle? It is a mystery. Actually, I kinda love that thread and think I’ll use it for future pro-SDMB evangelism. It’s got everything that drew me to the Dope in the first place: intelligent discussion of history/religion; genuine curiosity; group research; sharing of obscure facts (not on his part, but those who looked up those books and quoted from 'em); controversy; silly humor; a trollish crackpot; debunking of said trollish crackpot; and mocking of said trollish crackpot. We haven’t had such a noteworthy gangup on a fruitcake for some time. God bless free posting! ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/27 "2008-10-08T16:42:11Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Now I wonder why someone genuinely sharing what he believes to be worthwhile, nay vital, revelations about the one-only ‘inner school’ of myth-legend-etc. would restrict himself to three places in which he’d cause the most kafuffle? > > It is a mystery. But you then sove the mystery in concluding that Maatorc is: > [@choie](#): > > . . . a trollish crackpot . . . The question then is why is a tollish crackpot a trollish crackpot? Probably a chemical imbalance in the brain – perhaps a pineal gland problem. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![maatorc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@maatorc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maatorc)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/28 "2008-10-09T02:40:39Z")
> [@Muffintrollcrackpot](#): > > But you then sove the mystery in concluding that Maatorc is: > The question then is why is a tollish crackpot a trollish crackpot? Probably a chemical imbalance in the brain – perhaps a pineal gland problem. :eek: The answer to ALL of youse anxieties as to the existence and proof of the anatomical myth-work is on page 170, paragraph 8, of one of G. I. Gurdjieff’s works. Do not have the affrontery to ask me which one. Get off your butts and look around. It is somewhat like identifying what the ‘grail’ actually is, which is similar to convincingly explaining to everyone’s satisfaction how exactly the Great Pyramid was built: The definitive answers to both questions are known but in these matters the search is much more important than the solution. You yourself MUST undertake the quest. No pain - no gain. Go to it. Stop acting and speaking like the pretentious ignorant self-righteous gits that you are. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/29 "2008-10-09T02:51:28Z")
> [@maatorc](#): > > No pain - no gain. I’m good with that. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/30 "2008-10-09T02:52:27Z")
Hey! Look what came out from under the bridge! That’s “effrontery”, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![pinkyvee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6de8d8/32.png) [@pinkyvee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkyvee)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/31 "2008-10-09T02:53:10Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Venkman: At least I didn’t try to drill a hole in my head. > Egon: That would’ve worked! I agree … it would have worked [cite](http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/an-illustrated-history-of-trepanation/) ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/32 "2008-10-09T03:14:36Z")
> [@maatorc](#): > > The answer to ALL of youse anxieties as to the existence and proof of the anatomical myth-work is on page 170, paragraph 8, of one of G. I. Gurdjieff’s works. > > Do not have the affrontery to ask me which one. Get off your butts and look around. ~checks forum~ Fuck you, you ignorant, piece of shit troll. You know fuck all about what you’re pretending to talk about, you’re a poseur and a tool a liar and a fraud. You do you best to be an obnoxious piece of shit, pretending to be discussing something while all you do, continually, is bait and annoy people. You’re not really so fucking stupid as to not realize that books have different editions, publishers and thus pagination. You stupid fuck, do you really think this new troll will work? That someone will go track down every single edition of every one of Gurdjieff’s books, and then track down each paragraph 8 on page 170 to see what you’re talking about? At what point, you shit-stupid troll, you’d refuse to confirm what you’re talking about, and would just avoid the issue with maximum snideness? I’d also point you, you trolling asshole, that not only could you actually quote the paragraph yourself, but _you didn’t even mention Gurdjieff in the entire thread, and it was **intention** who mentioned him and started the discussion on his work._ You almost definitely never heard the name “Gurdjieff” and noticed other people talking about it, and figured it’d be a good subject to troll. In fact, when people who were actually interested in a debate, rather than trolling, began discussing Gurdjieff, you just added some more of your ignorant smacktard vomit. You hypocritical piece of trash, not only are you a pretentious poseur asshole, you cover up your ignorance by acting like an obnoxious smarmy fuck. And you’re stupid enough to think you’re fooling anybody, at all? Fuck yourself sideways with a porcupine, troll. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/33 "2008-10-09T03:19:49Z")
I think somebody need a hug. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/34 "2008-10-09T03:20:45Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Fuck you, you ignorant, piece of shit troll. > [Brilliance snipped for brevity] > Fuck yourself sideways with a porcupine, troll. Don’t sugar coat it; tell us how you really feel, man. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/35 "2008-10-09T03:35:08Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Wrong! It’s turtles, all the way down. But they’re all [this turtle](http://www.quizilla.com/user_images/S/SpiffyWinkel/1038981580_GAleonardo.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/36 "2008-10-09T03:46:17Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > Don’t sugar coat it; tell us how you really feel, man. I so saw that coming. 😃 … with my Third Eye! Which I so won’t tell you about. Go read random graffiti on the subway until you figure it out. You’ll know it when you do. ---
**Author:** ![maatorc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@maatorc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maatorc)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/37 "2008-10-09T04:12:30Z")
> [@FinnAgainshittrollstupidfucktrollingarseholehypocriticalpieceoftrashpretentiousposier](#): > > ~checks forum~ > Fuck you, you ignorant, piece of _shit troll_. You know fuck all about what you’re pretending to talk about, you’re a poseur and a tool a liar and a fraud. You do you best to be an obnoxious piece of shit, pretending to be discussing something while all you do, continually, is bait and annoy people. > You’re not really so fucking stupid as to not realize that books have different editions, publishers and thus pagination. You _stupid fuck_, do you really think this new troll will work? That someone will go track down every single edition of every one of Gurdjieff’s books, and then track down each paragraph 8 on page 170 to see what you’re talking about? At what point, you shit-stupid troll, you’d refuse to confirm what you’re talking about, and would just avoid the issue with maximum snideness? > I’d also point you, you trolling asshole, that not only could you actually quote the paragraph yourself, but _you didn’t even mention Gurdjieff in the entire thread, and it was **intention** who mentioned him and started the discussion on his work._ You almost definitely never heard the name “Gurdjieff” and noticed other people talking about it, and figured it’d be a good subject to troll. In fact, when people who were actually interested in a debate, rather than trolling, began discussing Gurdjieff, you just added some more of your ignorant smacktard vomit. > You _hypocritical piece of trash_, not only are you a _pretentious poseu_r asshole, you cover up your ignorance by acting like an obnoxious smarmy fuck. And you’re stupid enough to think you’re fooling anybody, at all? Fuck yourself sideways with a porcupine, troll. And you too have a good day! And, incidentally, you got it ALL wrong, but hell who doesn’t get it wrong here. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/38 "2008-10-09T04:19:29Z")
> [@maatorc](#): > > And, incidentally, you got it ALL wrong, but hell who doesn’t get it wrong here. Now, if everyone here has got it wrong… And you’re here… That means, that … Um… Something about glands, or eyes, or myths… ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/39 "2008-10-09T04:20:24Z")
> [@maatorc](#): > > And, incidentally, you got it ALL wrong, but hell who doesn’t get it wrong here. Everyone but you, **maatorc**. It’s pineal glands all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![maatorc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@maatorc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maatorc)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432/40 "2008-10-09T04:34:03Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Now, if everyone here has got it wrong…And you’re here…That means, that …Um…Something about glands, or eyes, or myths… As you know, you and I are the only perfect people in the whole world, but sadly I am now worried about you. In passing, “The People of the Secret” by Ernest Scott, abounds in information on Gurdjieff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-maatorc-on-your-century/466432.md?page=3)