# Congratulations to Bush and his supporters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2004, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690 "2004-11-03T06:33:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/41 "2004-11-03T07:32:01Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Goddamn, **gobear** , you _are_ a class act. Unfortunately, I am not, so expect more gloating (but directed, counter- **DtC** gloating!)

May this one request that you confine gloating to a “Ha ha Bush won” thread, instead of people who are worried about say, gay marriage bans?

In exchange, we’ll concede that **Diogenes** has surpassed **Reeder** and possibly **december** in partisan assholery.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/42 "2004-11-03T07:32:08Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> Is it just me, or does anyone else think that maybe DtC will stop posting, and it’ll be weeks later that we find out he was found in his house after eating a gun?

Not funny. I get your point, but . . . yikes.

Diogenes, calm down. _Calm down._ Really.

> [@gobear](#):
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> And don’t pick on Brutus and Bricker for gloating. It’s their night and their victory, and they are behaving just the way DtC would if Kerry had won.

Well, you’ve got a point. I don’t doubt that DtC would do the same, and moreso.

But I still think it’s kinda unseemly.

Diogenes: don’t bullshit us. Yes you would too gloat.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/43 "2004-11-03T07:32:19Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> As much as I loathe Bush and as depressed and disgusted as I am right now, that there is no fucking WAY that I would say that Bush=Hitler.

Yeah, Hitler was _much_ more intelligent. 😉

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/44 "2004-11-03T07:33:40Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> No I wouldn’t.

That actually cracked me up. Knee-slapping, full-body belly-laughs.

Thanks, **Dio.** Don’t ever change.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/45 "2004-11-03T07:34:31Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> The country re-elected Nixon too, despite all the voices of reason saying he was a scumbag.

The same country that 12 years earlier voted for the biggest scumbag of all.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/46 "2004-11-03T07:35:42Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> Not funny. I get your point, but . . . yikes.
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> Diogenes, calm down. _Calm down._ Really.
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> Well, you’ve got a point. I don’t doubt that DtC would do the same, and moreso.
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> But I still think it’s kinda unseemly.
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> Diogenes: don’t bullshit us. Yes you would too gloat.

No I wouldn’t. I made up my mind this afternoon that I wouldn’t (I thought Kerry was winning at that point). I had actually decided to post that I had been hard on Bush but that I was going to hold Kerry accountable as well. I had decided to be classy. Well, fuck that now.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/47 "2004-11-03T07:36:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> May this one request that you confine gloating to a “Ha ha Bush won” thread, instead of people who are worried about say, gay marriage bans?

More than fair, presuming that a vague approximation of the opposite is true. (Not 1000000000 ‘OMG AMERIKA IS DOOMED!’ threads)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/48 "2004-11-03T07:37:02Z")

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Hitler also write a book once.

Oh…and people believed him when he spoke.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/49 "2004-11-03T07:37:40Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I had decided to be classy. Well, fuck that now.

Too bad. Classy suits you much better.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/50 "2004-11-03T07:37:55Z")

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That’s it, **Dio.** Give 'em hell. Don’t take no shit off of nobody.

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**Author:** ![The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Universe_Lashes_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/51 "2004-11-03T07:39:29Z")

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I don’t understand how the fact that Bush won makes his position any less wrong. Nothing about Bush has been validated. He has had lots of support for over three years now, so this isn’t really a surprise. Gloating doesn’t really make much sense.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/52 "2004-11-03T07:40:10Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> No I wouldn’t. I made up my mind this afternoon that I wouldn’t (I thought Kerry was winning at that point). I had actually decided to post that I had been hard on Bush but that I was going to hold Kerry accountable as well. I had decided to be classy. Well, fuck that now.

So…had your side won, you were going to be (and we have only your word on this, it’s counter to every single bit of evidence we have based upon your posts, but whatever) gracious, but since you lost, it’s Katy bar the door, watch out for my temper tantrum? Classy.

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/53 "2004-11-03T07:40:44Z")

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> [@HowieReynolds](#):
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> I don’t understand how the fact that Bush won makes his position any less wrong. Nothing about Bush has been validated. He has had lots of support for over three years now, so this isn’t really a surprise. Gloating doesn’t really make much sense.

Maybe he was never wrong?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/54 "2004-11-03T07:42:32Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> Too bad. Classy suits you much better.

What’s that saying about being gracious in victory but defiant in defeat? That’s me. Or as George Carlin put it:

“Sore loser? You bet your fucking ass! What on earth is wrong with being a sore loser? It shows you cared about whatever the contest was in the first place. Fuck losing graciously. That’s for chumps…and losers, by the way.”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/55 "2004-11-03T07:44:16Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> So…had your side won, you were going to be (and we have only your word on this, it’s counter to every single bit of evidence we have based upon your posts, but whatever) gracious, but since you lost, it’s Katy bar the door, watch out for my temper tantrum? Classy.

That’s the truth. There’s a difference between kicking somebody when they’re down and kicking them when they’re up.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/56 "2004-11-03T07:44:38Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> What’s that saying about being gracious in victory but defiant in defeat? That’s me. Or as George Carlin put it:
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> “Sore loser? You bet your fucking ass! What on earth is wrong with being a sore loser? It shows you cared about whatever the contest was in the first place. Fuck losing graciously. That’s for chumps…and losers, by the way.”

And tonight…you are both.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/57 "2004-11-03T07:47:16Z")

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> [@Muad'Dib](#):
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> Maybe he was never wrong?

Oh, he’s wrong. Bush is very wrong. I’m furious at the results, particularly at the rank bigotry displayed by the voters in Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah who approved repuslive laws that codify anti-gay hate.

But the full mark of a man is not taken in victory, but in defeat. I’m going to hold my head up, smile, congratulate you on your victory, and then concentrate on squashing the GOP like an overripe peach in 2008.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/58 "2004-11-03T07:47:23Z")

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We’ll see.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/59 "2004-11-03T07:50:04Z")

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> [@HowieReynolds](#):
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> I don’t understand how the fact that Bush won makes his position any less wrong. Nothing about Bush has been validated. He has had lots of support for over three years now, so this isn’t really a surprise. Gloating doesn’t really make much sense.

You expect Bush supporters to make sense?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2004, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-bush-and-his-supporters/272690/60 "2004-11-03T07:51:02Z")

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Or, as Donald Trump once said, “Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.”

Regards to you, **Dio**. I know this is a lousy night for you and believe it or not I’m sorry about that.

Take care.

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