# congratulations to France **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 7, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076 "2017-05-07T18:50:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/1 "2017-05-07T18:50:07Z")
Rejecting the far right candidate. Lets hope the polls hold up. > **[France chooses centrist Macron over far-right Le Pen as next president](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/france-chooses-centrist-macron-le-pen-president-exit/story?id=47259916)** > > The election was viewed as a referendum on France's future in the EU. > [@](#): > > Polling agencies projected Macron to receive 65 percent of the vote to far-right candidate Marine Le Pen’s 35 percent. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/2 "2017-05-07T19:10:50Z")
Le Pen has conceded. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/3 "2017-05-07T19:14:30Z")
I was discussing a trip to Europe with my wife and kids next March. We had come to the decision that a win for Macron meant Paris. A win for Le Pen meant Spain. I’m glad the majority of French voters were sensible. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/4 "2017-05-07T19:56:45Z")
Great news! No telling when we might need them to help liberate us again. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/5 "2017-05-07T20:15:36Z")
Another fucking Trump was the last thing the world needed. Good fucking riddance, Le Pen. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/6 "2017-05-07T20:33:45Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Great news! No telling when we might need them to help liberate us again. +1 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/7 "2017-05-07T20:40:09Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Another fucking Trump was the last thing the world needed. Good fucking riddance, Le Pen. Although I must admit I was looking forward just a little bit to reimplementation of the guillotine. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/8 "2017-05-07T22:18:04Z")
Thank the gods that fascist bitch went down in flames. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/9 "2017-05-07T22:41:35Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Thank the gods that fascist bitch went down in flames. While I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment, last I looked she was on track to get twice as many votes as the last time the National Front was in the finals. I’d say Macron has bought some time — perhaps quite a bit of time — but the beast is far from dead. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/10 "2017-05-08T01:15:55Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Although I must admit I was looking forward just a little bit to reimplementation of the guillotine. Instead they’ll change the national anthem from “La Marseillaise” to “Hot For Teacher”. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/11 "2017-05-08T01:27:57Z")
I never thought LePen had a prayer, and the pollsters never gave her a chance. Trump’s win had people fearing “The polls are never right,” but this time they were spot on. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/12 "2017-05-08T01:34:49Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > I never thought LePen had a prayer, and the pollsters never gave her a chance. Trump’s win had people fearing “The polls are never right,” but this time they were spot on. The polls were “right” with Trump too, as the results fell within the margin for error. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/13 "2017-05-08T01:55:38Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > While I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment, last I looked she was on track to get twice as many votes as the last time the National Front was in the finals. I’d say Macron has bought some time — perhaps quite a bit of time — but the beast is far from dead. That worries me too. However if a far right candidate wins and people see that Islamic terrorism still happens it could dilute some of their support going forward. However the far right candidate can also easily use the attack to clamp down on civil and political rights. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/14 "2017-05-08T08:53:26Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > I never thought LePen had a prayer, and the pollsters never gave her a chance. Trump’s win had people fearing “The polls are never right,” but this time they were spot on. There was also Brexit; and did the pollsters give LePen a prayer at making the run-off? It’s good to get evidence that the entire world has not gone insane. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/15 "2017-05-08T09:24:29Z")
France choose an Elecktra Complex having unknown, incompetent over an actual Nazi sympathizer. What you congratulating them for again? Is the cupboard _that_ bare? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/16 "2017-05-08T09:37:20Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > France choose an Elecktra Complex having unknown, incompetent over an actual Nazi sympathizer. > > What you congratulating them for again? Is the cupboard _that_ bare? Yes, it actually is. See also: Donald fucking Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/17 "2017-05-08T10:32:54Z")
Now Macron actually has to do the work. France is not yet liberated from its own problems yet. If he screws up, the FN could well come roaring back the next time around. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/18 "2017-05-08T11:59:57Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > There was also Brexit; and did the pollsters give LePen a prayer at making the run-off? It’s good to get evidence that the entire world has not gone insane. Brexit and Trump won close elections that were ALWAYS predicted to be close. Yes, LePen WAS expected to be in the runoff. In a crowded field, she was bound to make the top two. But once it was down to her and any other opponent, no poll ever showed her within 20 points of the lead. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/19 "2017-05-08T14:20:38Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > I never thought LePen had a prayer, and the pollsters never gave her a chance. Trump’s win had people fearing “The polls are never right,” **but this time they were spot on**. (emphasis mine) This is the opposite of reality. The polls missed Le Pen by about 10 points. Nationally, they got Trump about right. And even if you cherry-pick states, no state aggregate was off by that margin. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076/20 "2017-05-08T18:26:39Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > (emphasis mine) > > This is the opposite of reality. > > The polls missed Le Pen by about 10 points. Nationally, they got Trump about right. And even if you cherry-pick states, no state aggregate was off by that margin. Look, the reality is, LePen was NEVER in striking distance in any poll. Her fans (and her more paranoid foes) were convinced she was much stronger than the polls suggested, and liked to say, “The polls said Trump and Brexit would lose, too.” In reality, LePen WAS as far behind as she appeared to be. I’m not sure what you think you’re refuting. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congratulations-to-france/786076.md?page=2)