# Congressman Steve King is even stupider than we thought **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 8, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903 "2012-08-08T22:08:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/61 "2012-08-10T00:27:16Z")
Stupid waves emanate from California, and are broadcast over the nation. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/62 "2012-08-10T00:29:49Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > He’s pro-dogfighting. There’s a standard Republican tactic where you try to connect anyone who’s agaisnt you with something obviously horrific. So, the picture he’s trying to draw is one of anti-dogfighters also being pro-rape and abortion for 13-year-olds who are then left bleeding at a playground. :smack: > > Mind you, I’m not saying that he understands the tactic, just that he’s trying to use it. See also [Refuge in Audacity.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RefugeInAudacity) > [@](#): > > This isn’t Getting Crap Past the Radar. This is crashing the crap through the front doors and out the back doors of the radar installation in an armored car with sunglasses-wearing flaming skull decals on every flat surface and a Hieronymus Bosch reproduction on the door, hood-mounted machine guns blazing, Motörhead blasting on the jury-rigged PA system, the tires leaving tracks painting sex and violence on the floor and walls and one arm hanging out of the window making a rude hand gesture. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/63 "2012-08-10T00:31:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Stupid waves emanate from California, and are broadcast over the nation. Well then explain Florida. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/64 "2012-08-10T00:33:23Z")
> [@Blaster\_Master](#): > > I am by no means a supporter of Steve King, but I think I understand what he’s trying to say. I don’t think he’s pro dog fighting, rather that he is disturbed that there is a federal law against dog fighting but there isn’t a federal law against his rape-abortion scenario. But, [it **is** a federal crime](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Kidnapping_Act) to abduct a girl (unless she’s your own daughter), regardless of the purpose and regardless of whether you take her across a state line. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/65 "2012-08-10T00:33:53Z")
> [@Daddypants](#): > > [Stephen Colbert from Tuesday night.](http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/417498/august-07-2012/steve-king-s-dogfighting-defense) The best part, “What?! That’s not illegal?! Steve King should do something about that! Oh, oh, wait…I’m being told that…yes, yes all of that IS illegal. Fast work, King.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/66 "2012-08-10T00:35:47Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Well then explain Florida. [The stupid drains down. And reacts chemically with the weird.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnlyInFlorida) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/67 "2012-08-10T00:36:03Z")
The state shaped like an enormous flaccid dick. Malform follows malfunction. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/68 "2012-08-10T00:41:18Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The state shaped like an enormous flaccid dick. Malform follows malfunction. Careful with that kinda talk. You don’t want to get us riled up. (Watch out, Bermuda! :eek:) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/69 "2012-08-10T00:50:10Z")
Live in Minnesota, where its cold. By the time an engorged Florida gets here, it will have shriveled to Rhode Island. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/70 "2012-08-10T02:04:51Z")
> [@Daddypants](#): > > [Stephen Colbert from Tuesday night.](http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/417498/august-07-2012/steve-king-s-dogfighting-defense) I think “monstrous glassy-eyed man-puppies” may be my new favorite phrase, and I’m sad because I can’t actually imagine ever having another occasion to use it. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/71 "2012-08-10T02:27:02Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > Well then explain Florida. Tim Dorsey has you covered. Apparently, criminal psychopaths like nice weather, and if you pass out in snow you die. ---
**Author:** ![Freakenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b782af/32.png) [@Freakenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freakenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/72 "2012-08-10T10:05:43Z")
Steve King 2016! ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/73 "2012-08-10T10:25:39Z")
What he says makes a certain kind of sense, BUT it is delivered in a way that suggests to me barroom rantings rather than speech made to a legislature. He seems unpolished is all. ---
**Author:** ![Moe\_Lawrence\_Curly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Moe\_Lawrence\_Curly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe_Lawrence_Curly)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/74 "2012-08-10T11:08:25Z")
[quote=“Blaster\_Master, post:50, topic:630903”] I am by no means a supporter of Steve King, but I think I understand what he’s trying to say. I don’t think he’s pro dog fighting, rather that he is disturbed that there is a federal law against dog fighting but there isn’t a federal law against his rape-abortion scenario. It seems to me that he feels that it is a mixed up priority when we have federal laws against dog fighting but not against other things that he believes are morally much worse. Of course, he’s still an idiot because the comparison of dog fighting to boxing is just ridiculous and his rape-abortion scenario is misleading because, whether or not there’s federal laws against it, every state has laws against it, so saying it isn’t illegal is only a true statement from a very narrowly defined perspective. * * * OK, so Congressman King (who like most good Teahadists thinks there are TOO MANY federal laws - and lets repeal every one Obama signed!), is against the federal prohibition of dog fighting because there aren’t MORE federal laws against, ie, kidnapping & raping a 13 year old girl, taking her to another state for a forced abortion & then leaving her back at the playground. Leaving aside the obvious - that there are in fact Federal laws that would apply to his kidnapping/rape/abortion/interstate transport of a minor scenario - his argument is that the anti-dogfighting legislation fails because there aren’t MORE Federal laws (that he, in turn, would want to do away with)? This is a fail on so many levels, I gotta go lie down. With sleeping dogs. Oooh, I itch … ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/75 "2012-08-10T12:22:32Z")
> [@grude](#): > > What he says makes a certain kind of sense, BUT it is delivered in a way that suggests to me barroom rantings rather than speech made to a legislature. > > He seems unpolished is all. _Mythbusters_ showed it’s possible to polish a turd. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/76 "2012-08-10T13:31:01Z")
> [@Blaster\_Master](#): > > I am by no means a supporter of Steve King, but I think I understand what he’s trying to say. I don’t think he’s pro dog fighting, rather that he is disturbed that there is a federal law against dog fighting but there isn’t a federal law against his rape-abortion scenario. It seems to me that he feels that it is a mixed up priority when we have federal laws against dog fighting but not against other things that he believes are morally much worse. Yes, clearly. This much is obvious. But, what’s he thinking that we should have laws for that we don’t currently? Something about state lines and abortions and age of consent laws? He must have something specific in mind. I just have no idea what he’s thinking about. ---
**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/77 "2012-08-10T15:11:42Z")
> [@grude](#): > > What he says makes a certain kind of sense, BUT it is delivered in a way that suggests to me barroom rantings rather than speech made to a legislature. > > He seems unpolished is all. None of it makes sense. Every single aspect of that quote is stupid and wrong. I assure you that, thankfully, it’s quite illegal to kidnap and rape a 13 year old, transport her across state lines, and force her to have a medical procedure. Even if he didn’t use a completely stupid and wrong scenario to make his point, if he’d made a scenario about something that actually was legal but terrible, it _still_ wouldn’t be an argument against anti-dog fighting laws. Try to make whatever is legal but terrible illegal, _and_ make dog fighting illegal. There’s no reason you have to pick between the two. He’s a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/78 "2012-08-10T16:57:51Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > He must have something specific in mind. I just have no idea what he’s thinking about. What all politicians think about: re-election. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/79 "2012-08-11T00:18:23Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > You have to remember that these are People of the Land. The Common Clay of the New West. > > You know, Morons. - golf clap - ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903/80 "2012-08-11T15:29:32Z")
I was listening to Mark Levin’s radio show last night on the way home (I know, I’m a glutton for punishment) and he had on what he called a “solid conservative” under assault from powerful leftists. The poor guy was faced with having to make expensive media buys in outlets including Sioux City and Mason City (IA), Sioux Falls (SD), southern Minnesota etc. to counter the nasty attacks on him. I thought “No, it can’t be…can it?” Yep, Levin’s guest was the inimitable Steve King, who morphed from a ludicrous anti-animal rights nincompoop into a God-fearing patriot right before my very eyes (ears). [Here’s a listing](http://justcallmelucifer.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/steve-king-naming-and-shaming/) of King’s votes covering animal protection and environmental legislation. While you could justify a number of them on the basis of anti-Federal spending proclivities, the overall pattern is pretty disgusting. And while we’re naming and shaming, how about it, Ohio Legislature - [close down the damn puppy mills](http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/07/12/state-puppy-mill-bill-stalls-in-house.html). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-steve-king-is-even-stupider-than-we-thought/630903.md?page=5)