# Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in the head? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 8, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904 "2011-01-08T18:36:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/441 "2011-01-22T00:25:37Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > If he goes to prison, whether sentenced to life imprisonment or death row, I think it’s pretty likely that he would be in lockdown, or confined to his cell for 23 hours a day. I know that if someone wants to kill another prisoner, he will if he’s determined enough, but he won’t be mingling with the general population. Even his exercise time and shower time would be solitary. However, I realize that won’t absolutely protect him from being harmed, it will just give another prisoner a smaller window of opportunity to do so. should he go to prison no doubt he will end up in adx florence. [ADX Florence - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence) this place is not known as camp cupcake. he will be in “interesting” company there. don’t ask scotty to beam you there. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/442 "2011-01-22T01:12:24Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > should he go to prison no doubt he will end up in adx florence. [ADX Florence - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence) > > this place is not known as camp cupcake. he will be in “interesting” company there. don’t ask scotty to beam you there. Oh, yay, why is it that all y’all’s crazy people get shipped here? 😉 Yea, Florence is NOT a relaxing place to be. It’s unfortunate, though, because it seems relatively clear (to me) from Loughner’s history, writings, and reports from friends and family, that he’s significantly mentally ill, and treatment for mental health issues in correctional facilities is…not good. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/443 "2011-01-22T01:55:01Z")
Oddly enough, one Florence inmate, Charles Harrelson, once stated that he enjoyed his time in the supermax, and that the “silence was wonderful”. Why was he there? Killing two Federal judges. Also a prior escape attempt. He was not a nice man. His feelings about the place may, of course, be atypical. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/444 "2011-01-22T01:57:54Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Oddly enough, one Florence inmate, Charles Harrelson, once stated that he enjoyed his time in the supermax, and that the “silence was wonderful”. Why was he there? Killing two Federal judges. Also a prior escape attempt. He was not a nice man. His feelings about the place may, of course, be atypical. Side note: He was Woody Harrelson’s father. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/445 "2011-01-22T02:46:58Z")
I have an uncle who was in Florence. Huge, fearless biker type. The guards beat him so badly and so often that he stutters now. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/446 "2011-05-25T19:55:17Z")
Sorry to wake the dead, as it were… Jared Loughner has been found mentally unfit to face trial. [Washington Post story here.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/tucson-shooting-suspect-faces-hearing-to-see-if-hes-mentally-competent-to-stand-trial/2011/05/25/AG90O6AH_story.html?wpisrc=al_national) ---
**Author:** ![sprale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@sprale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sprale)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/447 "2011-07-11T19:59:02Z")
I find it reassuring that even though anti-gun groups have latched onto this and taken advantage of the tragedy to promote gun bans and restrictions, I have yet to hear the congresswoman come out in favor of gun bans. Damn gun-grabbing Liberals are always there to jump on a fresh carcass. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/448 "2011-07-11T20:02:02Z")
> [@sprale](#): > > I find it reassuring that even though anti-gun groups have latched onto this and taken advantage of the tragedy to promote gun bans and restrictions, I have yet to hear the congresswoman come out in favor of gun bans. Damn gun-grabbing Liberals are always there to jump on a fresh carcass. Well, in her defense, she was _shot in the head._ It might take her awhile before she makes any specific policy recommendations on gun control. ---
**Author:** ![sprale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@sprale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sprale)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/449 "2011-07-11T20:14:19Z")
What sort of gun control could have prevented a criminal or mentally unfit person from gaining access to a firearm? Even the guy’s family should have done something, knowing that he was quite unstable. Her family has also not not come out in support of the [Brady Bunch](http://www.bradycampaign.org/), the [Coalition to Ban Handguns](http://www.csgv.org/) or any other extremist anti-gun groups. Arizona is a _free_ state. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/450 "2011-07-11T20:23:38Z")
> [@sprale](#): > > Arizona is a _free_ state. Boy-howdy, Loughner sure proved that, didn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![sprale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@sprale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sprale)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/451 "2011-07-11T20:34:21Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Boy-howdy, Loughner sure proved that, didn’t he? I think that he mostly proved that laws intended to promote safety don’t mean squat to those either willing to do harm to others, or to those who are not in complete control of their reasoning ability. He’s a nut. Probably should not have been allowed out in public, let alone to possess a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/452 "2011-07-11T20:36:03Z")
> [@sprale](#): > > Probably should not have been allowed out in public, let alone to possess a gun. And the best way to make sure that someone like him doesn’t get a gun is to do away with all gun control? ---
**Author:** ![sprale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@sprale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sprale)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/453 "2011-07-11T20:47:01Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > And the best way to make sure that someone like him doesn’t get a gun is to do away with all gun control? Is that a question or a suggestion? I think that reasonable gun control is a good thing. I also think that some training should be recommended before a person owns a firearm. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/454 "2011-07-11T20:49:36Z")
“Recommended.” It’s a start. How do you feel about “required?” Or what about gun licensing? You know, the sort of stuff that makes your average hardcore gun-nut start talking about boating accidents? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/455 "2011-07-11T20:56:23Z")
Welcome to the SDMB, **sprale**. If you want to debate gun control, start a thread in Great Debates. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904.md?page=22)