# Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in the head?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 8, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904 "2011-01-08T18:36:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/141 "2011-01-08T21:35:33Z")

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Saying this is an evolution of Fringe Right political stances is akin, to me anyway, to saying “Gay men have been putting dicks in their mouths since before recorded history, was it any wonder Jeffrey Dahmer took it to the next level?”

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**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/142 "2011-01-08T21:35:38Z")

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His one “favorite” linked video, that has a description just like Jared himself uses, is about flag burning. Yep, liberal. 😉

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/143 "2011-01-08T21:36:30Z")

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> [@tnetennba](#):
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> Cached myspace page: [http://bit.ly/echASY](http://bit.ly/echASY)
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> There are some tea partyish tropes but it’s mixed up with good old fashioned crazy. I suspect schizophrenia and PSTD are largely in play here. Sad story.

This link goes to a French art student who writes about burning flags.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/144 "2011-01-08T21:37:16Z")

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Please take the right wing vs. left wing violence discussion to the Pit thread or somewhere else if (for some reason) you must continue in that vein.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/145 "2011-01-08T21:38:14Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> This link goes to a French art student who writes about burning flags.

Look at the comments by Jared Loughner lower down.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/146 "2011-01-08T21:38:21Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> This link goes to a French art student who writes about burning flags.

Looks like it was the shooter posting things on her wall, if I’m reading it right.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/147 "2011-01-08T21:42:09Z")

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> [@Jared Loughner](#):
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> If there’s no flag in the constitution then the flag in the film is unknown.  
> There’s no flag in the constitution.  
> Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown.  
> Burn every new and old flag that you see.  
> Burn your flag!  
> I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed.  
> Watch this protest in reverse!  
> Ask the local police; “What’s your illegal activity on duty?”.  
> If you protest the government then there’s a new government from protesting.  
> There’s not a new government from protesting.  
> Thus, you aren’t protesting the government.  
> There’s something important in this video: There’s no communication to anyone in this location.  
> You shouldn’t be afraid of the stars.  
> There’s a new bird on my right shoulder. The beak is two feet and lime green. The rarest bird on earth, there’s no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body. It’s with one large red eye with a light blue iris. The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker. This new bird and there’s only one, the gender is not female or male. The wings of this bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for. If you can see this bird then you will understand. You think this bird is able to chat about a government?  
> I want you to imagine a comet or meteoroid coming through the atmosphere.  
> On the other hand, welcome yourself to the desert: Maybe your ability to protest is from the brainwash of the current g

I think I might detect some mental illness there.

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**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/148 "2011-01-08T21:42:27Z")

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His obsessions seem to be about currency and English grammar

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/149 "2011-01-08T21:43:26Z")

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And syllogisms.

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**Author:** ![Walmarticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Walmarticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walmarticus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/150 "2011-01-08T21:44:44Z")

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See what you’ve done, GRAMMAR NAZIS!

All your rhetoric and the chickens are coming home to roost!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/151 "2011-01-08T21:46:05Z")

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This may be a [picture](http://azstarnet.com/events/collection_aebeb63c-2f9e-11df-9021-001cc4c002e0.html?mode=image&photo=8) of him at a Tucson book festival.

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**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/152 "2011-01-08T21:47:02Z")

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A nine year old girl is among the dead. I have a 9 year old girl and we live in Tucson. This hits a little too close to home for me.

I can only hope she wasn’t a friend, classmate, or someone else we know.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/153 "2011-01-08T21:47:32Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> I apologize. I had both this and the pit thread open next to each other.

Noted, thanks for acknowledging. Misremembering the forum we’re in happens to the best of us.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/154 "2011-01-08T21:49:52Z")

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Amazing what a difference a comma can make. The scroll at the bottom of the news feed says “Arizona Congresswoman Shot Out Of Surgery”.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/155 "2011-01-08T21:55:44Z")

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What, from a cannon?

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**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/156 "2011-01-08T21:58:30Z")

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Her husband is an astronaut and shuttle pilot, Mark Kelley. He has just landed in Tucson on a NASA jet.

I guess that’s an employment benefit.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/157 "2011-01-08T22:03:25Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I have data. The victim is a Democrat. She’s been targeted by right wing violence before, and **liberals don’t do shit like this**.

Dude…what fucking ever. What an asinine claim.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/158 "2011-01-08T22:03:26Z")

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> [@kjckjc](#):
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> People are saying this is Jared: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoaZaLbqB4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoaZaLbqB4)

He’s been on some internet message boards, all right.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/159 "2011-01-08T22:06:14Z")

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> [@Palo\_Verde](#):
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> A nine year old girl is among the dead. I have a 9 year old girl and we live in Tucson. This hits a little too close to home for me.
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> I can only hope she wasn’t a friend, classmate, or someone else we know.

i can’t imagine… you go to stock up on food or what ever and your 9 year old daughter is shot. really horrible. i’m wondering about the parents/parent, if they are amoung the wounded or dead as well.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-the-head/566904/160 "2011-01-08T22:08:18Z")

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nm/dup

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