Agreed. I must admit that I’m fascinated by the 2nd gunmen rumors, but my gut tells me that they won’t amount to anything.
Maybe someone who supplied him with the gun.
A second suspect doesn’t have to mean a second shooter, and it sounds like they don’t think anyone else was shooting. The NYT says police are looking for someone else who “may have helped” Loughner. That could mean helping him get the gun or who knows what else.
It’s Arizona. He probably just went and bought a gun, I would imagine.
Initially when I heard about this, my faith in humanity dropped once again. But now that I think about it, I’m actually comforted a little - bystanders chased the guy down while he was holding a gun? How courageous is that?
The other day here in DC someone got beaten in the Metro station and everybody just stood and watched, or filmed it on their cell phones. Nobody even hit the emergency button or alerted the manager. So try not to get shot in DC.
He is also upset about immigrants of the non-English speaking variety.
BBC is saying something about someone “may have accompanied the gunman to the site.” Could be just some poor shlub who gave the jerk a ride to the grocery store without knowing what would happen. I’d disappear too!
The scariest thing about Jared Lee’s videos is that they don’t sound psychotic at all – loopy & strange, definitely, but not on the verge of going postal like so many others.
You never know…you never know. :eek:
(Incredibly pedantic aside - Fallacy of the undistributed middle, if anyone’s interested)
I merged it into the existing thread, rather than close one of them or have multiple threads. This means there are a couple of discussions happening simultaneously. Hope it’s not too confusing.
twickster, MPSIMS moderator
Yep yep. that’s the what I was going for. Just forgot the terminology. Thats what I saw in my friend and thats what I see with these Youtube videos. Someone attempting to make a step by step argument for something but connecting things and ideas haphazardly. I guess with a schizophrenic patient it might be somewhat related to Derailment.
I don’t know if that’s what has him upset. E.g.,
ISTM that he is accusing the government of controlling people’s thoughts by controlling the engligh language, a la 1984.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t. One downside to the job is that you attract the ire of political enemies; another is that you attract the attention of apolitical whackaloons.
The Washington Post identified the dead child as Christina Taylor Green, born September 11, 2001.
That’s a little freaky.
A little freaky?
This must be the first political shooting in the US in the age of Youtube/Twitter/Wikipedia and it’s impressive how quickly the Internet pulled out relevant information about the incident, from the crazy video and Loughner’s picture to news stories about death threads made to Judge John Roll.
I must respectfully disagree; I think there will be many extremists who will consider Loughner a hero (for the record, I’m not one of them - I think he did a terrible thing).
Do we know whether the primary target of the shooting was Giffords or Judge Roll?
For example this NYTimes reportseems to suggest that Roll was the first person who was shot:
I think the police have said they believe Giffords was the primary target.
Well, you know reliable early reports are, but I read somewhere earlier that Judge Roll had at the store doing some shopping and upon leaving came over to say hello to Rep. Giffords, so it doesn’t sound at this point like he was a scheduled attendee.