# Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene MUST GO

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895 "2021-01-31T00:44:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/182 "2021-02-06T21:05:49Z")

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True and I think going after people for their name, whatever their reasons for that name, doesn’t get you far.

But neither do I think it is wrong to speculate why someone chose the name they did. Why didn’t Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis just become Jacqueline Onassis?

I’d bet dollars to dimes Sarah Huckabee Sanders wants to trade on the Huckabee name. Especially when you consider her conservative roots. Maybe there were other reasons.

In the end…call yourself whatever you (general “you”) want and we can make fun of you for whatever we want.

I do not see this as a sexist thing at all since anyone can choose whatever name they want. We can mock them though. For example:

> **['Stephen Ignoramus' – who livestreamed himself inside the Capitol – arrested...](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/national/capitol-riots/capitol-breach-riot-stephen-ignoramus-stephen-baker-dc-musician-livestream-insurrection-sedition-north-carolina/65-02343d38-8201-44c4-98e2-ec29ae4aa7a4)**
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> Witnesses told they FBI they'd grown concerned about Stephen Baker's streams that featured conspiracies and 'mockery of minority groups.'

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/183 "2021-02-06T21:31:34Z")

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I’m not trying to offend. But you seem to be taking a very uncharitable interpretation of my post.

My point was just what I said. I don’t understand why she uses her maiden name. The talk about her fathrr is only in reference to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and showing that she clearly didn’t do it for the same reason.

She is a politician, using a form of her name that is not the one I would expect given her cultural background. Thus I believe it likely she did so for a political reason, just like Sanders did.

I will also note that having your middle name replaced with your maiden name is a very patriarchal custom. Again, it isn’t a compound lastname, but a replacement for a given name, which does suggest a patriarchal ownership. Heck, given how anti-feminist she is, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the point.

She may yet have a legitimate reason for the name. But she chose to make it a middle name, so I can fairly call her Greene, while I cannot refer to AOC as Cortez, as that is not her name. I will refer to her as I do Sanders, treating her the same as I would a male politician. The only reason I don’t use Ortezio-Cortez is that it’s hard to type, and she nicely came up with an abbreviation for us.

I will not refer to Greene using those letters and have it replaced the “Magic the Gathering” meaning in my mind.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/184 "2021-02-06T21:58:29Z")

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There was no need to sneeringly wonder who her father was.

Over the last 20 years, it’s become increasingly common for women to keep their last name as an informal middle name, especially on social media. I think it’s because they want to take their husband’s name but want people who knew them before they married to be able to find them. It’s dirt common. There’s no need to twist it into any political statement.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/185 "2021-02-06T22:07:27Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> Over the last 20 years, it’s become increasingly common for women to keep their last name as an informal middle name, especially on social media. I think it’s because they want to take their husband’s name but want people who knew them before they married to be able to find them. It’s dirt common. There’s no need to twist it into any political statement.

I agree with MandaJo here. While it isn’t universal, I have seen many examples over the last few years of employees keeping their maiden name as part of their legal name after marriage. Some of them my hyphenate while others make their maiden name their legal middle name. For example, Sandra Diane Johnson will come back with a Social Security Card that reads Sandra Johnson Smith after she’s married.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/186 "2021-02-06T22:10:12Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I will not refer to Greene using those letters and have it replaced the “Magic the Gathering” meaning in my mind.

For two days I’d see MTG here, google it and all I got was Magic cards. Finally, the tenth or so use of it was where I got it from context.

I agree, she’s not important enough to be an acronym. Unlike the real MTG…

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/187 "2021-02-06T22:15:47Z")

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I know tons more who do it informally, most especially on social media.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/188 "2021-02-06T22:37:20Z")

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Why did Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis choose that name?

No social media at the time.

No maiden name in there (Bouvier).

The point is there can be lots of reasons why someone chooses the name they want the world to see. Some are innocuous, some self serving.

We can speculate on that. Conservative women are not well known for flexing their independence from their husbands. Kinda goes against the grain and when it comes to someone like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. She puts herself out there into the public sphere we are free to comment on her.

If she were some random Jane Doe I’d say leave her be.

Note: This is true for men and women.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/189 "2021-02-06T23:00:11Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/MTGConspiracy/status/1357813853724278784>

Main page: [https://twitter.com/mtgconspiracy](https://twitter.com/mtgconspiracy)

There’s some good ones 😃

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/190 "2021-02-06T23:17:15Z")

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Remember when Trump made Ronna _ **Romney** _ McDaniel, RNC chairperson, stop using her middle name?

> **[Trump asked RNC chairwoman to stop using ‘Romney’ in her name: report](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364060-trump-asked-rnc-chairwoman-to-stop-using-romney-in-her-name-report/)**
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> President Trump asked current Republican National Committee (RNC) head Ronna Romney McDaniel if she would be willing to stop using her middle name publicly before she became chairwoman, according t…

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/191 "2021-02-06T23:52:58Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > “Empty Greene”
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> Sounds like a certain golf course in Palm Beach County, Florida. Considering the number of people who canceled their memberships after 1/6.

It works for both!  
  
  
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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> They don’t.
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> Something they never understand is even if they magically poofed the world into some white-only thing they want they would be very quickly at each-other’s throats for something else. Presbyterian vs Methodist or blue eyes vs brown eyes or Georgia vs Alabama…something.
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> IIRC when loads of weekend warriors drove out to “protect” Cliven Bundy and his cattle and the police mostly left them alone it didn’t take long for them to start fighting amongst themselves. Nothing overly dramatic but these people just don’t play well with others no matter who that is.

When you’ve based your entire self-worth on being the Embattled Victim, you can always find someone who is (supposedly) victimizing you.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/192 "2021-02-07T03:19:33Z")

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Said another way: Mean people suck.

They folks @Sherrerd and the folks quoted are talking about are mean people. At bottom mean people are mean because they’re fearful cowards. There’s nothing more to it. The louder and more aggressive they are, the more fearful they are of everything around them.

Cowards to the core. Like small yappy dogs. And equally deserving of respect or attention.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/193 "2021-02-09T08:57:39Z")

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@BigT explain your plan once more please, I am missing a step:

1. Finding issue with one thing about MTG that isn’t completely vile while being casually misogynist.
2. ???
3. Profit!!!

It takes real talent when discussing someone like MTG to make the conversation about YOUR prejudges - My congratulations, excellent work!

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/194 "2021-02-09T10:38:39Z")

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You’ve claimed things that I not only didn’t say, but already clarified was not what I meant. What point is there in me explaining further?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/195 "2021-02-09T12:50:43Z")

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**Modnote** : This is clearly attacking the poster and not the post. Do not do this in P&E or GD.

_This is just a guidance, not a warning. Nothing on your permanent record._

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/197 "2021-02-20T05:31:31Z")

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No, she must stay, as we call all point to her whenever the repubs make a crack about AOC or anyone on the Dems side. Just neuter her. In fact i think Pelosi can just never recognize her?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/198 "2021-02-26T00:06:37Z")

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Science only matters when with a Republican believes it supports their argument!

> **[Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls For 'Trust The Science' In Anti-Trans Poster](https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-calls-trust-science-anti-trans-poster-1572018)**
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> Greene controversially hung the sign directly opposite the office of Illinois Representative Marie Newman, who spoke in Congress this week in support of the Equality Act.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/199 "2021-02-26T00:26:23Z")

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I was wondering if Pelosi controls office assignments. Like maybe assign her an office across town or something.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/200 "2021-02-26T00:32:06Z")

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Put her in the basement with a can of bug spray. She can take her red Swingline stapler with her.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/201 "2021-02-26T01:26:26Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Science only matters when with a Republican believes it supports their argument!
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> [Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls For 'Trust The Science' In Anti-Trans Poster](https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-calls-trust-science-anti-trans-poster-1572018)

I’m not so sure that the “Trust the Science” part of Greene’s poster—the rest of which says “There are TWO Genders: Male and Female”–indicates that on this topic Greene believes that science supports her position.

Obviously science does NOT support the idea that humans can be divided into two polarized distinct genders, with no overlap or shared traits.

Now, Empty Greene is probably not terribly gifted in the IQ department.

Still, if I had to bet money, I’d bet that she _knows_ that her position isn’t supported by science—and that she included the phrase purely to troll.

> **[Interactive Map: Gender-Diverse Cultures](https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/)**
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> On nearly every continent, and for all of recorded history, thriving cultures have recognized, revered, and integrated more than two genders.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/202 "2021-02-26T02:13:16Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Still, if I had to bet money, I’d bet that she _knows_ that her position isn’t supported by science—and that she included the phrase purely to troll.

I’m not inclined to think that. I’ve met my share of people who seemed perfectly intelligent and functional who believe that humans are divided into men and women, that science supports that (they don’t know anything beyond XX and XY), and all these myriad gender classifications are a liberal social phenomenon. I don’t see any reason to believe Representative Greene is not one of these fairly mainstream people. I think basing her “trust the science” purely on trolling is giving her too much credit. I sincerely think she believes it. A hell of a lot of people do.

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